Gunfreak   | 15 Apr 2018 2:18 a.m. PST |
So there's no Willys jeep in the British equipment list at all in the rules. But i assume it would go under reconnaissance car.
But how would you rate the twin vickers? As 8 dice as an belt fed LMG or 10 dice as a tripod mounted machine gun? |
| Barries Lead Mountain | 15 Apr 2018 3:26 a.m. PST |
The Vicker's K Guns were a very high ROF 950-1200 rpm
comparable with MG 42 (although they tended to jam in prolonged use) so ROF 8 – therefore 12 for twin. However the Para jeeps at MG used only singles K guns to get twins you need the SAS jeeps of late 1944 – 1945 or the SAS in the desert campaign IIRC |
| Razor78 | 15 Apr 2018 3:40 a.m. PST |
Did they use twin Vickers at Arnhem? |
| Gunfreak | 15 Apr 2018 3:42 a.m. PST |
Yes, that's what the book/film claim anyway. |
| Barries Lead Mountain | 15 Apr 2018 3:43 a.m. PST |
No definitely not
Goughie wanted them but the brass said no it would use too much ammo and they needed the space on the Gliders for Boy Brownings golf clubs |
| uglyfatbloke | 15 Apr 2018 4:22 a.m. PST |
Barry's absolutely right. Gough wanted to use the Recce Squadron as…wait for it…a Recce Squadron or to take Tetrarch tanks, but was over-ruled. |
| shaun from s and s models | 15 Apr 2018 5:45 a.m. PST |
yes single vickers only on jeeps at arnhem |
| Barries Lead Mountain | 15 Apr 2018 6:28 a.m. PST |
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| Gunfreak | 15 Apr 2018 6:45 a.m. PST |
So one vickers and 8 dice.
Do anyone of you know. Why Rubicon shows the airborne jeep with a .50 cal on the hood? |
| Fred Cartwright | 15 Apr 2018 8:28 a.m. PST |
Do anyone of you know. Why Rubicon shows the airborne jeep with a .50 cal on the hood? I don't think Airborne had these, but Popski's Private Army had Jeeps with 50 cals on the bonnet and they wore berets, not sure what colour, but maybe they are meant to represent them. |
| jdginaz | 15 Apr 2018 4:05 p.m. PST |
While they are rated at 950 to 1200 the practical RoF would be limited somewhat by the need to change the drums. CoC doesn't rate MGs by the theoretical rate of fire but by the ammo feed system. So it would be rated at 6D6 as a magazine fed weapon. |
| Barries Lead Mountain | 15 Apr 2018 4:22 p.m. PST |
I disagree about the 6D6 that would make it the same as a Bren with a 28-30 round mag Vs a K guns 60/100 round pan, so why would they bother using them? The Commandos on D-Day used them as fire support instead of the water cooled Vickers do to their lighter weight and easier portability – they had plenty of Brens though :) With regards to the 50 cal on the jeeps – yes indeed Popski used them in Italy as did SAS and SAS later in NWE too but not Paras as far as I can see. if you want twin guns on para jeeps make them B Sqd 6th AARR they had a mix of carriers, jeeps and bikes and I have seen a report that they had twin Vickers K at some point- maybe not D-Day. |
