"Ran into 40K guy never heard of TMP" Topic

Overheard 2 workers on a job today from another company, 1 guy was trying to get his co-worker to take a look at 40K Warhammer game. So I asked if he ever been here and he said he hadn't so told him many good things you could find here. His co-worker was actually while not involved in any miniatures was interested in ACW as a hobbie. Should see them tomorrow and might show him where online to look at figures.

Over the years I've run into several guys who knew little about the hobby beyond GW.

And some gamers are not on the internet yet.

I tend to think of GW as a separate but related hobby--about as closely related to historical miniatures gaming as model railroading.

I ran into a GW store attendant who had not heard of TMP and couldn't understand why I was buying there if I didn't do GW games. Apparently he had never even heard of historical wargaming,

Dan

I went to a GW store to buy just paint. I got the ??? Treatment too.

GW employees know about gaming outside of GW…but they aren't supposed to admit to it, especially in-store.

I am not surprised that the Warhammer player had not heard of TMP. I am much more surprised when I hear a Warhammer player HAS heard of TMP.
There is nothing wrong with the "GW Hobby", but it does tend to leave it's hobbyists a little tunnel visioned to what else is out there.
What I have noticed in the last few years is that Warhammer gamers discover new games by following ex-GW authors.
All the newer games linked with Priestley, Cavatore, etc. seem to open their eyes to wider world of miniature gaming.

Warhammer players think that $30 USD for a single plastic Apothecary is normal.

I'm absolutely convinced that GW regularly gets mails from "faithful concerned GW hobbyists" that they discovered a horrible scam to copy GW's incredible gaming invention and evil copycat companies are producing illegal miniature games and that GW must put a stop to this.

Of the historical gamers I meet, very few know of or take part in TMP. They seem quite happy wit that, so all is fine.

The Warhammer gamer has been into it around 2 years he said, and was suprised there are rules for historical gaming. He was also proud of conversions he did and told him he could get many ideas here. I don't get into the Warhammer gaming here much but often look at what they do.

I avoid GW stores & acolytes myself. The whole GW or nothing attitude seems very cultic to me.

Not that surprising. I reckon at least a half of the wargamers I know are unaware of TMP, or knew of its existence but didn't come here.

Of the 16 historical gamers I play with only 1 of them reads TMP and he's just posted here

GW ? … We don't need no stink'n GW !!!!!

When I go into one of their stores here, it's to get paints or the liquid green stuff usually, sometimes some terrain building stuff, and the look on their faces when I tell them, "I'm not into the GW hobby…" is usually pretty priceless…

Most of the wargamers I know have never heard of TMP. Of those that have only one has ever posted here. They all live quite happily without it.

as both a Warhammer player and historical gamer, i have found Games workshop enthusiasts have plenty of options for opponents, inspiration, and discussion, and wouldn't get much from TMP, especially considering this site is full of people badmouthing and complaining about GW gamers.

I have also meet plenty of GW gamers who later get into historicals who also don't get much use from TMP because its full of people badmouthing and complaining about historical games! i usually just come here for a laugh, and occasional news from manufacturers i like

My experience chatting to GW staffers in the UK is that many of them are into historicals of one form or another. I've ha long chats about Bolt Action, Flames of War, Wings of glory etc. And also SF/F games as well (quite a following for Full Thrust I found)

We're all playing make-believe with toy soldiers. What's the difference?

"I avoid GW stores & acolytes myself. The whole GW or nothing attitude seems very cultic to me."
Sorta like Napoleonic and some ancients players…
Personally, I also consider the "GW Hobby" to be a thing. It doesn't mean it's the "wargaming" hobby. GW's all-encompassing products are truly a hobby in itself.

Did get to tell the guy more interested in the American Civil war era where he can look at figures, and he was thinking they were already painted but told him they are raw metal but if he looked on ebay could possibly pick up painted figures. And told him ( showed him the TMP page yesterday) he could go to the boards then ACW and gallery to see how guys paint theirs.

Most of the wargamers I know have never heard of TMP. Of those that have only one has ever posted here. They all live quite happily without it.

Only because they don't know what they are missing!

GW works hard to keep their customers inside the GW box and remain unaware of the broader world of gaming interests and products

That seems to be very true dsfrank. I first got into GW in @ '89. But I have kept myself away from them generally for about 20+ years. And recently their newer releases have reached a new high in lows when it comes to over-the-top !