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Tyler32604 Apr 2018 7:55 a.m. PST

So is it me being cheap or not? I recently went to place an order for 80MM pikes from Warlord Games USA. As I went to checkout I looked at the shipping cost

$8.00 USD for the Pikes
$12.50 USD for shipping.

Seems a bit high to pay 150% shipping. I live in the USA and am assuming these are being shipped from USA. Needless to say I did not order them.

Thomas O04 Apr 2018 8:05 a.m. PST

Warlord Games are in England. I believe that orders over $30.00 USD have free shipping.

I do most of mine this way now YouTube link not very hard and I can turn out quite few in a short amount of time, plus I can make them to length I want.

The Beast Rampant04 Apr 2018 8:11 a.m. PST

Their baseline for free shipping to the US is $50 USD (with very frequent specials of only $30 USD). Even though I am not a big user of their stuff by any means, I always find a way to pad my order out to the minimum free shipping ammount.

So, yes, that's expensive, but it is clearly incentivizing you to spend more cash.

I'm a a pretty poor/cheap hobbyist anymore, I rarely spend more than $50 USD at a time, and no one rankles at inflated shipping rates more than me. But I see this as no big issue.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Apr 2018 9:06 a.m. PST

For comparison's sake:

Shipping a 2 ounce package from the US to the UK via the US mail (cheapest option) is $14.00 USD.

Obviously if the pikes in a padded mailer weigh more than that, it would run more.

Ragbones04 Apr 2018 9:16 a.m. PST

I feel your pain. Unfortunately, the cost of shipping has increased significantly. It's definitely impacted my hobby buying.

Esquire04 Apr 2018 9:28 a.m. PST

Yes, being an old fart, I remind my younger friends that the Internet has given us great variety in purchasing, but with shipping costs, the "cost savings" are often not there -- unless the retailer does discount on certain purchase levels. For miniatures, the brick and mortar stores just cannot keep up with the variety that the market place requires. But now, I fear that I am on the brink of buying paints, brushes and other stuff on-line only -- where I would much prefer to buy from the store. Doing the best that I can to keep the local hobby store afloat, but the end may be near.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2018 11:09 a.m. PST

Getting things from the USA to England is ferociously expensive, I only do so when I have no other choice!

Esquire04 Apr 2018 12:14 p.m. PST

Well, this thread has me thinking. I really want and will enjoy some Steve Barber ACW 28mm figures. I've just ordered 96 figures plus 7 packs of heads (which I think are 12 per). The metal figures are obviously the real weight. But the breakdown, in US Dollars for the shipment of 96 figures and the other individual heads:

Figures, heads -- 129.00 GBP -- 181.62 US
Shipping -- 29.50 GBP -- 41.50 US
Total $223.12 USD or $2.38 USD per figure US

Like it or not, that is a "good deal" but also kudos to Barber for his work.

Esquire04 Apr 2018 12:22 p.m. PST

And now that I look, that is what these type of figures cost in the USA from USA distributors without postage factored in -- which might or might not be an issue.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2018 12:24 p.m. PST

The original question is about shipping from USA to USA. So why all the transatlantic comments. Within USA, the pikes could have been shipped in a padded envelope for under $5. USD

Historique04 Apr 2018 12:34 p.m. PST

Crispy,

What are you shipping with the minimum being $14 USD? I ship padded envelopes all day long to the UK for half that, tracked as well.

Esquire04 Apr 2018 12:37 p.m. PST

Bobgnar -- good point, but I read into the second comment from Thomas O that Warload ships from UK -- thus my comments. So, I went to Warload, USA website and it states the following: "Shipping & Delivery -- Please note that all orders placed through the Warlord webstore are shipped from our warehouse, located in Nottingham, UK"

jrames04 Apr 2018 2:47 p.m. PST

Then some charge 25% of total order, which can be very pricey.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Apr 2018 3:04 p.m. PST

@Historique:

I am shipping packages of minis. What are you shipping to the UK for $7 USD and how?

TheWarStoreSweetie04 Apr 2018 3:15 p.m. PST

Warlord ships from England, if you are buying from them direct. For shipping in the CONUS, if you ship first class, expect to pay about $3.95 USD in shipping costs. That would include said pikes and a padded envelope. If it goes over 6 oz (give or take) you can expect it to run more. And that is provided you are using USPS, and not another shipping service.

goragrad04 Apr 2018 8:29 p.m. PST

If stock is not being kept in the US, one wonders why there is a US storefront.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP04 Apr 2018 10:30 p.m. PST

Esquire, thanks for that follow up. And a big ditto goragrad

shaun from s and s models05 Apr 2018 1:32 a.m. PST

the uk post office is putting it's prices up very soon as well!

Giles the Zog05 Apr 2018 3:46 a.m. PST

The British P.O has already put its prices up (week before last) as I had to change my shipping costs.

To reduce P&P, entirely, I ask round my gaming mates for their orders every couple of months, and almost invariably avoid all P&P costs by getting over the £50.00 GBP mark. Also means we get to meet up to exchange Lead Cross parcels. :-)

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Apr 2018 4:08 a.m. PST

If it can be shipped in a flat envelope rather than a box then international shipping is a bit cheaper. All my PaperTerrain stuff goes that way and a small order can only cost $7.00 USD or even less. As the weight climbs, however, the cost can quickly get up to 20 or 30 dollars, even for a flat envelope.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Apr 2018 5:19 a.m. PST

Aah. I'm always shipping minis so even a padded envelope counts as a package becasue it varies in thickness more than 1/4"

mindenbrush05 Apr 2018 3:17 p.m. PST

I always buy mine from the UK as shipping is far cheaper than from the USA even though both are "international" to Canada.
I also buy the long pikes and cut them down to spears, the remainder I grind to a long point, flatten and clean up the shape. Finally I mount the spear in the drill vice and then use a long small dia grinding stone to create the "waist" behind the spearhead.

Baranovich05 Apr 2018 9:20 p.m. PST

I really love Warlord's products. But as Goragrad said, what's the point of having a "U.S. store" if there isn't actually stock IN the U.S. when you order something? Seems misleading to me. Just say up front that everything is still coming from the U.K. upon order.

Giles the Zog06 Apr 2018 3:40 a.m. PST

I would imagine Warlord have a US store in order to
- avoid EU/UK VAT and related taxes
- to help work out their sales are in different territories for business tax purposes,
-and potentially setting up a physical presence in the US if the demand is sufficient.

Kraken Skulls Consortium06 Apr 2018 5:25 p.m. PST

Our shipping to the farthest zone from us, being Australia, has gotten so expensive (from the US) that I know for a fact it has cost us business. What we ship cannot be shipped in less than a padded mailer, so like Extra Crispy, we pretty much have a minimum international rate of $14 USD ($9 if it is light, but only to Canada), and it jumps to $23 USD without much weight at all. Sadly, I think international rates are only going to get much worse in the coming years.

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