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Aristonicus01 Apr 2018 11:52 p.m. PST

I enjoyed this article:

The Last Jedi: a Leninist uprising against Tyranny!
Larry Kummer, Editor
Book, Film, & TV Reviews
7 March 2018
Summary: Feminists praise The Last Jedi, seeing a strong woman leading the revolution against "toxic masculinity." But she is the villain, similar to the villains in another classic film about a revolution: Battleship Potemkin. These films both show and are part of a revolution.


The Villains.
The commanders in both films are cruel aristocrats who have no respect or empathy for their crews.

The Heroes.
Masculine everyman heroes their respective audiences can empathize with.



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Dynaman878902 Apr 2018 4:47 a.m. PST

Can only take this so far. I don't think a true Leninist would like the fact that the "everyman" hero turns out to be an idiot.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2018 6:30 a.m. PST

Whom are you speaking of. Dynaman? *Every* character in that film turned out to be an idiot.laugh

Dynaman878902 Apr 2018 7:55 a.m. PST

True true, but a "Leninist uprising" film would not have made the "hero" an idiot.

The leaders simply saying "we have a plan but can't say what it is since way may have a spy" would have been the end of all the "drama"

Andrew Walters02 Apr 2018 10:02 a.m. PST

I am still waiting for an objective standard for how far we're allowed to bend the different elements to make them fit these analogies. But hey, this looks like fun.

bz1bz1 Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2018 10:46 a.m. PST

An interesting read. If nothing else it reminds you that the Battleship Potemkin is a far better film than the Last Jedi. Fingers crossed for Solo……

Winston Smith02 Apr 2018 11:30 a.m. PST

How about a "Lannister Uprising"?
There's a lot of scope there for tortured analogies.

SBminisguy02 Apr 2018 2:07 p.m. PST

An interesting read. If nothing else it reminds you that the Battleship Potemkin is a far better film than the Last Jedi. Fingers crossed for Solo……

LOL, ain't that the truth!

Dynaman878902 Apr 2018 4:09 p.m. PST

> How about a "Lannister Uprising"?

Who would Tyrion be?

> There's a lot of scope there for tortured analogies.

If there is a Lannister than torture is coming into the picture somewhere – or would that be the flayed man guys?

Captain Gideon03 Apr 2018 6:45 a.m. PST

For myself I liked The Last Jedi and can't understand all the BS that's coming on from people who didn't like it.

The only opinion that matters when it comes to a film is my own,I don't give a crap about critics or anyone else when it comes to movies.

I have enjoyed ALL of the Star Wars films(YES even the prequels).

Dynaman878903 Apr 2018 8:15 a.m. PST

> For myself I liked The Last Jedi and can't understand all the BS that's coming on from people who didn't like it.

Good for you. It was still crap and I don't give a crap if you don't agree.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2018 10:00 a.m. PST

Captain Gideon, can you see that calling someone else's opinion "BS" is to insult both that opinion and the person offering it? It's fine that you like the film as well as all the others. But when someone else states that they don't, and gives reasons why, they aren't demeaning you or your like of the same. So don't enter a conversation by doing that to them or their opinions. It is that sort of approach that is the real BS.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2018 6:28 p.m. PST

Kinda a tortured analogy. I'm just sticking with 'it was a really, really, REALLY, bad movie.'

Captain Gideon04 Apr 2018 7:24 a.m. PST

Dn Jackson why do you think it was a really,really,REALLY,bad movie?

Cacique Caribe04 Apr 2018 7:25 a.m. PST

What would Syrian Lannister do?

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PS. "Leninist … Against tyranny". That's funny.
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