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Tango0128 Mar 2018 1:04 p.m. PST

"Hey! Today I would like to share with you short review/unboxing of Polish Vistula Legion.

Box is important I saw so many producers who still do not understand it. Luckily Warlord Games is not one of them. On box we have lovely graphic on front and picture of painted unit & historical brief on back. Unfortunately cardboard is very thin and it's easy to tear/bend it…."
Full review here
link


Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2018 5:14 a.m. PST

I wish we could see far, far, more of such reviews.

We need to see what comes in the box, what assembly is required, how well cast and accurate they are, what true scale they seem when mixed with other makers' work etc …..

This is a valuable service to us all and he should be thanked!

as should Tango of course…(grin)

Tango0129 Mar 2018 11:16 a.m. PST

A votre service mon cher ami!. (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

BigE4NFL Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2018 5:59 a.m. PST

Thanks for that review look also. Think I will purchase after all. Appreciate the link.

Erik

Tango0130 Mar 2018 11:04 a.m. PST

Happy for you my friend!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Garde de Paris31 Mar 2018 12:05 p.m. PST

Although they (3 regiment of infantry of the Vistula Legion) served in Spain my main Napoleonic interest I have never collected or painted them. But I do not remember seeing evidence that any Polish infantry ever wore the long-tailed French habit as depicted on this box, and in the figures themselves.

I also do not recall them ever wearing the square-topped
"czapka" head gear.

This box also shows the drummer in a Bardin-era 1812-1815 coat closed to the waist, and in imperial green with yellow/green lace. This might never have been worn, as the Legion marched into Russia in 1812, 3 regiments withdrawn from Spain and a 4th added, and such changes might not have been ready.

I'd like to learn more….

GdeP

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2018 2:59 a.m. PST

I often wonder if makers confuse the Vistula Legion with Duchy of Warsaw…not the same thing..

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2018 2:29 a.m. PST

Just to clarify. Poor Warlord have got wrong yet again.

They seem to produce some nice figures in plastic and have come up with a wide range.

But their research is lacking. This is a box containing heads to make Duchy of Warsaw infantry. So they are essentially in "Polish" service, allied to Napoleon for 1812……… they wore the czapka (and bearskin) but were a long way from the Iberian Peninsula.

Vistula Legion were part of Napoleon's Grand Army and did serve famously in Spain (with some units entering Russia late in the Retreat stage). They wore the French style shako but with the sunburst shield of many European armies.

To be fair………Looking again, they do seem to have given some metal heads, in the shako, but with a lozenge plate. Hard to tell.

Maybe this set can make either unit, but I think not from the pictures

Garde de Paris02 Apr 2018 7:56 a.m. PST

The 3 Vistula Legion regiments from Spain entered Russia with the Imperial Guard "corps."

These long-tailed figures make good basic French (or northern Italian) infantry of the line figures, using shakos. Not correct for any polish units I have ever seen for Napoleonics.

GdeP

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2018 8:23 a.m. PST

I thought it was third battalions, newly formed, that went to Russia…..ie different lads to those enjoying the sun in Spain.

Off to the books now to check on that!

No……You are absolutely right………..they indeed invaded just as you said….and only later did third battalions join them in Russia.

OK so the coats are wrong for any Polish unit (possibly the officer is allowed the longer tails and exposed waistcoat?).

The Czapka is wrong for Vistula Legion

The Shako seems French style with the lozenge plate, not the sunburst for Duchy of Warsaw.

Apart from that………..

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