| battle master | 21 Mar 2018 11:30 a.m. PST |
Does anyone know of any ACW rules which have generic army lists similar to those in DBM/FOG type rules? I have Fire and Fury which have the Orbats for large battles and also from the website a list of generic corps style compositions, but no army lists on a points basis for pick up games. I have searched extensively but cannot find such generic lists for pick-up points based games for ACW? |
| Old Contemptibles | 21 Mar 2018 11:34 a.m. PST |
Maybe "Mr. Lincoln's War"? |
| Quaama | 21 Mar 2018 2:27 p.m. PST |
If you desire to stick with Fire and Fury then please see: PDF link for Regt F&F but it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt for Brig. F&F;
link as a basic idea for Brig. F&F; and
link which a 'random generator' for games. I hope the above helps (the first suggestion seems to be what you're asking for). Also, as you may be aware, there is a wealth of information on smaller battles that can be easily adapted to F&F as the man-to-figure ratio is a known rules factor. |
martin goddard  | 21 Mar 2018 3:13 p.m. PST |
Peter Pig's "Civil War Battles" contains a fair few army lists. Early/ late, east /west etc… |
| EJNashIII | 21 Mar 2018 3:37 p.m. PST |
Please don't bring the ridiculous point system to ACW. :-( There are plenty of real oobs you can use. |
| dantheman | 21 Mar 2018 7:18 p.m. PST |
Black Powder's Glory Hallelujah" has lists by army year if I remember correctly. |
 Extra Crispy | 21 Mar 2018 8:16 p.m. PST |
Why? Basically you have the same artillery on each side, ditto infantry. You can ignore cavalry for the most part. |
| battle master | 22 Mar 2018 2:19 a.m. PST |
Thanks guys. Yes I already have the F&F generator but a few of you have helpfully referred to a few rule sets which have lists such as for different times in the war. Of course I will probably have to buy the rules for access to the lists despite not wishing to play the rules. |
| Old Wolfman | 05 Nov 2018 8:32 a.m. PST |
Most of them are no longer available online. |
| Jabba Miles | 07 Nov 2018 7:39 a.m. PST |
There is a system for rolling up pick up games in the Brigade Fire & Fury 2nd edition rule book. I've used it several times. |
| Quaama | 07 Nov 2018 11:47 a.m. PST |
Most of them are no longer available online. The three links I provided above remain available. I can also add:
link has some small battles; and
link includes those from magazines. The important thing to remember is that as man-to-figure ratio is a known rules factor in F&F so all you need to do is research the small battle you are interested in and then convert the original order of battle from men to the figures/stands required under the rules. Naturally, 'known' orders of battle from the ACW are not 100% accurate so a bit of rounding off for playability does no real harm. [What has frustrated me in the past year is that internet searching for anything to do with F&F includes results that refer to the Fire and Fury book about Trump so you'll need to look through several pages to find what you could previously get in only a few pages.] |
| dantheman | 07 Nov 2018 1:59 p.m. PST |
Neil Thomas's Introduction to Wargaming has a neat unit generator for the ACW to reflect the skill of each army as the war progressed. Simple but not perfect. I does not give you unit ratios but does have a fun die roll generator to determine troop quality. Worth looking at if only for the fun of it. |
completes a Confederate river ironclad.
