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battle master21 Mar 2018 11:30 a.m. PST

Does anyone know of any ACW rules which have generic army lists similar to those in DBM/FOG type rules? I have Fire and Fury which have the Orbats for large battles and also from the website a list of generic corps style compositions, but no army lists on a points basis for pick up games. I have searched extensively but cannot find such generic lists for pick-up points based games for ACW?

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2018 11:34 a.m. PST

Maybe "Mr. Lincoln's War"?

Quaama21 Mar 2018 2:27 p.m. PST

If you desire to stick with Fire and Fury then please see:

PDF link for Regt F&F but it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt for Brig. F&F;
link as a basic idea for Brig. F&F; and
link which a 'random generator' for games.

I hope the above helps (the first suggestion seems to be what you're asking for). Also, as you may be aware, there is a wealth of information on smaller battles that can be easily adapted to F&F as the man-to-figure ratio is a known rules factor.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Mar 2018 3:13 p.m. PST

Peter Pig's "Civil War Battles" contains a fair few army lists. Early/ late, east /west etc…

EJNashIII21 Mar 2018 3:37 p.m. PST

Please don't bring the ridiculous point system to ACW. :-( There are plenty of real oobs you can use.

dantheman Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2018 7:18 p.m. PST

Black Powder's Glory Hallelujah" has lists by army year if I remember correctly.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Mar 2018 8:16 p.m. PST

Why?

Basically you have the same artillery on each side, ditto infantry. You can ignore cavalry for the most part.

battle master22 Mar 2018 2:19 a.m. PST

Thanks guys. Yes I already have the F&F generator but a few of you have helpfully referred to a few rule sets which have lists such as for different times in the war. Of course I will probably have to buy the rules for access to the lists despite not wishing to play the rules.

Old Wolfman05 Nov 2018 8:32 a.m. PST

Most of them are no longer available online.

Jabba Miles07 Nov 2018 7:39 a.m. PST

There is a system for rolling up pick up games in the Brigade Fire & Fury 2nd edition rule book. I've used it several times.

Quaama07 Nov 2018 11:47 a.m. PST

Most of them are no longer available online.

The three links I provided above remain available. I can also add:
link has some small battles; and
link includes those from magazines.

The important thing to remember is that as man-to-figure ratio is a known rules factor in F&F so all you need to do is research the small battle you are interested in and then convert the original order of battle from men to the figures/stands required under the rules. Naturally, 'known' orders of battle from the ACW are not 100% accurate so a bit of rounding off for playability does no real harm.

[What has frustrated me in the past year is that internet searching for anything to do with F&F includes results that refer to the Fire and Fury book about Trump so you'll need to look through several pages to find what you could previously get in only a few pages.]

dantheman Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2018 1:59 p.m. PST

Neil Thomas's Introduction to Wargaming has a neat unit generator for the ACW to reflect the skill of each army as the war progressed. Simple but not perfect.

I does not give you unit ratios but does have a fun die roll generator to determine troop quality. Worth looking at if only for the fun of it.

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