"New Necron stuff including new Start Collecting box" Topic

It doesn't look like there will actually be any new models, which in my mind is fine, the Necron line is pretty good as is with the last update in 2011 or so.

The new start collecting set is a great deal. You get 12 Warriors and 5 immortals. Plus two characters and a annihilation barge. Retail that would run you almost $160. USD

The other nice thing is that it really dovetails with the other Start Collecting Necron set.

If you got both you would duplicate the overlord but end up with 24 warriors, 5 immortals, two useful characters and two warmachines.

Which is a pretty decent army to start with.

Even just two of these new boxes would get you a pretty good army with 10 immortals and 24 warriors as the core of your force along with the rest. You could always build some of the immortals as Deathmarks too, give you an elite choice.

I even forgot to mention the scarab swarms.

And thinking about it with the two boxes and half of the new ForgeBane set, you would probably have enough for a pretty complete Necron army.

I concur. Good point about the Deathmarks, I hadn't considered that option. Thanks for that suggestion Pictors Studio.

I noticed the Doomscythe looks like it might have gone extinct. Which raises some questions if they have something in the works to replace it?

The Doom Scythe is still up on the GW site, at least in the US. It is possible that they are out in other places.

I know they have been having difficulty keeping up with demand lately and have been working on getting more machines to keep pumping the plastics out.

Their old production levels can not do it.

Looking at it the Canoptek Wraits are listed as no longer available here. I wonder if they are retooling them? They must still be part of the army as they are released in the Forgebane set.

I noticed in the UK that the T'au Firewarrior boxes were not available, prior to the Codex release. Now they are back again so I expect they were building stock for a perceived rush after the Codex hit.

Maybe it is the same with the Necrons?

Start Collecting! Another cash grab from GW! Miniatures overpriced! I spray painted my skeletons silver and they work fine! GW is going under soon, nobody plays 8th edition!

It is nice, but the Necron warriors are useless to me. The Forgebane set looks more useful.

I haven't played with or against Necrons since the last new Codex came out. In 3rd edition Necron warriors were very useful for bulking up your force and being difficult to keep down. They didn't kill a lot of stuff typically but were useful against vehicles, so much so that our Necron players stopped fielding dedicated tank killers and left it up to these guys.

They were good at protecting pariahs and immortals who did most of the killing of the enemy, as well as preventing fade out.

Nuts, if I'd known I'd have probably held off buying the older box.

Pictors, 8ed Necrons struggle against vehicles; they can only 'glance' vehicles as well as, say, Space Marines. And with the ridiculously short-ranged weapons on most 'Cron vehicles, they're likely to be knocked out before they can cause any serious damage to enemy vehicles.

And as far as the new Necron Codex leaks go, I have yet to see anything that addresses this issue.

So there are no rules for the gauss part of the gauss rifle. I wondered how that would work with vehicles not having critical hits in the new rules and with wounds instead. I wondered if they would double wounds against vehicles or some such.

Kind of takes a lot of the utility of the warriors away. One thing that made them viable as a unit without access to heavy weapons is that each one of them was a heavy weapon, if a weak one.

I've played Necrons since 3ed, and the current iteration is, by far, the least effective across the board. Their one good point – Reanimation Protocols – is only effective when infantry is taken at maximum squad size and accompanied by a Cryptek, imposing a heft tax on any Necron army.

I could go on for a while about their shortcomings, but I'm sure you'll face off against them eventually. Suffice to say, they're not even close to being a competitive army in this edition.

That sucks. They were a pretty good starter army for people in the past, probably the best in a lot of ways. The basic troops were useful, they were easy to paint, they were pretty resilient so if you made a bad move and got them shot up they could take it and you didn't need to worry much about the details in army selection because the troop types didn't have much in the way of options.

A really good starter army.

Hopefully the codex will fix some of it.

I don't think so. Necrons are tough to beat in my experience. They also tend to do very well in tournaments. A basic necron warrior is as tough as a space marine. And if you bring a Monolith or two, it'll ruin anyone's day.

Regarding OOP models they are definitely having issues and I suspect having to prioritize what they are producing. I've been looking for a Tyranid Exocrine for WEEKS and it's always on the GW site as 'Temporarily Out of Stock' and no local stores have one. Prices on ebay or Amazon are in the hundreds of dollars range.