"If you live in New Jersey" Topic
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 StoneMtnMinis  | 15 Mar 2018 10:59 a.m. PST |
If you live in New Jersey and purchase miniatures online, it appears that you may be paying more. It is my understanding the new govenor plans to have a new tax on online purchases. If you live in New Jersey can you add any more information regarding the proposed tax? Do you know what this tax rate will be? Dave |
| nnascati | 15 Mar 2018 11:05 a.m. PST |
I am in New Jersey. The only time I pay pay tax on minis purchased online, is when I buy from Brigade Games which is located in NJ. |
| dandiggler | 15 Mar 2018 11:07 a.m. PST |
Just closing the loophole where out of state online retailers don't have to collect sales tax. It's been self reported via tax returns for many years, with the only enforcement that I've seen through Amazon. So like many other states, expect the sales tax to be collected up front when ordering out of state. The sales tax will be back at 7%, not that I ever saw a difference with the 6.875% sales tax. |
| TheWhiteDog | 15 Mar 2018 11:35 a.m. PST |
I'm not sure I'd call the Commerce Clause a loophole. I suspect that the recent Supreme Court case will have some bearing on whether the New Jersey law is constitutional. The view on a lack of physical presence causing undue burden will have some long-reaching effects, depending on how it is decided. |
| StoneMtnMinis | 15 Mar 2018 12:30 p.m. PST |
Question – What if "physical presence" is construed(or stretched) to include have a manufacturers product available in a retail store? Even when the store is not directly owned by the manufacturer? Any tax lawyers want to comment? Dave |
| Dynaman8789 | 15 Mar 2018 3:35 p.m. PST |
It has to be something the owner controls. A retailer selling your stuff does not count as a physical presence. I'm not a lawyer, yada yada yada |
| Vigilant | 16 Mar 2018 6:05 a.m. PST |
Can't comment on US law, but in the UK a retailer would not constitute a presence (we would call it belonging) under VAT which is the nearest we have to your sales taxes. As Dynaman says there has to be control. It sounds like what is happening is that New Jersey is taking action to protect its own businesses against unfair competition – having to pay tax on goods it sells within the State which businesses outside the State can sell without tax. We have the same rules for purchases from businesses outside the EU (presumably this will be on all purchases from outside the UK after Brexit). |
| 14Bore | 17 Mar 2018 11:41 a.m. PST |
You don't get to fill your own vehicle with gas |
| Dynaman8789 | 17 Mar 2018 11:48 a.m. PST |
Let me rephrase that one. You don't have to get out in the freezing cold to fill your own vehicle with gas. That is one of the perks of living in the state. |
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