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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Mar 2018 2:46 p.m. PST

From Strelets in 1/72

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Amicalement
Armand

Lets party with Cossacks Supporting Member of TMP13 Mar 2018 12:51 a.m. PST

Really like the drummer's pose. Like them all in fact.

4th Cuirassier13 Mar 2018 12:57 a.m. PST

As these are Prussian infantry on the march, shouldn't they be looking anxiously over their shoulders, and hurrying more?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Mar 2018 9:27 a.m. PST

Glad you like them my friend!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

C M DODSON15 Mar 2018 2:06 a.m. PST

Once again Stretlets have raised the bar and these are lovely. However the cloth bag would normally be slung on the left hand side in my opinion. I hope that that can be corrected before production.

The drummer is a vignette in the making.

Chris

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Mar 2018 4:26 a.m. PST

Well spotted. Strikes me it must have been hard enough to access the ammo pouch, as it was, with the rolled great coat in the way. Add the haversack on the right hip…….no rapid fire here!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Mar 2018 9:30 a.m. PST

Glad you like them too my friend!

Amicalement
Armand

Snapper6916 Mar 2018 1:07 a.m. PST

I echo the comments on the haversack, which is on the wrong side. Also, the uncovered shakos severely restrict the use of those figures. Firstly, the shako ornaments modelled were used only by the Füsilier Battalions. Secondly, shakos were always covered except on parades and reviews, on which occasions the greatcoat was carried rolled on top of the pack and not "en bandoulière". Additionally, the colours should be furled on the march. They were unrolled halfway in action, and fully displayed on parade. Apart from these mistakes, I really like the sculpting of these figures.

Best regards
Mike

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP16 Mar 2018 3:52 a.m. PST

So, as one to whom Prussian uniforms are bit puzzling, I will ask…

These are all musketeers? No ammo pouch on the front of the belt and a sabre not a straight sword. Webbing in white then.

The shako ornaments, though…..you don't mean that disc on the top front that gave the cover its pointed look do you? I do see that those without a cover have a cockade like thing below. Is that the mark of a fusilier then? Finally, the white circle we sometimes see, it looks painted on, was that only a temporary 1812 idea?

von Winterfeldt16 Mar 2018 8:13 a.m. PST

for campaign dress they should have also long trousers, a thing which almost no manufacturers gets right, as for musketeers, in case they wear a side arm with a hand guard, then you can use them as musketeers or grenadiers, otherwise in case they have a Faschinenmesser, they are fusiliers, really easy my dear deadhead

Three Armies17 Mar 2018 1:20 p.m. PST

Von W, do all fusiliers have a Faschinenmesser? And I would guess the haversack 'mistake' is a deliberate one in order to facilitate moulding and casting of the right trailing arm.

Snapper6919 Mar 2018 2:34 a.m. PST

@deadhead: in 1813 the Füsiliere no longer used the belly box, except perhaps some NCOs. Their uniform distinctions would be black belts and the Faschinenmesser, plus the cockade instead of a badge on the front of the shako.

All wore the same white pompom with black centre, or "National", at the top of the shako. This gave the distinctive bulge under the oilskin cover. Below this, on the front of the shako, Musketiere wore the "FWR" Monogram in brass. The white circle was painted on the shako cover only by battalions going to Russia in 1812 as an identifying mark.

@von Winterfeldt: long linen trousers were Summer campaign wear. Some units wore them in Winter, e.g. the Colberg Regiment in 1813/1814, whose grey Winter trousers did not catch up with them until the cantonment in Wesel in March 1814. Von Ribbentrop had specifically held back deliveries of woollen trousers during the Summer as an economy measure.

BR
Mike

Oliver Schmidt19 Mar 2018 3:10 a.m. PST

Mike, where did you find the info that the Kolberg regiment received woolen trousers as late as Match 1814 ?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2018 3:43 a.m. PST

Well I learnt a lot there!

many thanks indeed……..

Snapper6920 Mar 2018 4:13 a.m. PST

Hi Oliver, it is to be found in the regimental history (von Bagensky). Ribbentrop's "Sammlung von Vorschriften" documents the order to not distribute woolen trousers from the current annual clothing issue, as all units were well-supplied with linen trousers which would suffice for the Summer.

Oliver Schmidt20 Mar 2018 5:13 a.m. PST

Mike, before asking, I looked up in Bagensky, but to no avail.

A Google Books search only yields a reference to linen trousers still being worn in November 1815:

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Could you point me to a page number ?

Snapper6920 Mar 2018 5:24 a.m. PST

Oliver, the Bagensky quote was from memory. I will have to look it up, but after moving house in November, I will first have to find the book, as my library is still packed! :-(

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