Help support TMP

"fate of USS Chesapeake" Topic

9 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.

Back to the Age of Sail Message Board

Back to the War of 1812 Message Board

707 hits since 4 Mar 2018
©1994-2018 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Personal logo green beanie Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2018 7:00 a.m. PST

What ever happened to the Super Frigate USS Chesapeake after her capture by the Royal Navy? Was she renamed and serve in the Royal Navy?

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2018 7:06 a.m. PST

Served in RN under same name until 1819.

I would not call her a super frigate myself as she was about the same size as a typical later British 38. She was only 2 feet longer on the gun deck than the Shannon and about 20 shorter on the gun deck than Constitution, and carried 18 pdrs like the British frigates rather than 24 pdrs like Constitution.

StarCruiser04 Mar 2018 8:47 a.m. PST

And some of her timbers were used to build the Chesapeake Mill in England:

21eRegt Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2018 9:03 a.m. PST

Served as HMS Chesapeake till 1819 when she was broken up and as noted, became part of a mill. Of the original six authorized frigates the President, United States, Constitution and Philadelphia were rated 44s but the Chesapeake and Constellation were pretty standard.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Mar 2018 12:45 p.m. PST

Philadelphia was not one of the original six, but rather the largest of the "subscription" frigates of a couple years later. Congress was the sixth of the originals.

StarCruiser04 Mar 2018 9:57 p.m. PST

^ Correct – of course!

And why would anyone forget that? Well, coincidentally, she was considered the most ineffective of the lot – just like the US Congress!

(Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. ~ Mark Twain)

Brechtel19805 Mar 2018 4:37 a.m. PST

The USS Chesapeake was not a 'super frigate' and was not a sister ship to the Constitution, United States, and President.

Personal logo green beanie Supporting Member of TMP05 Mar 2018 6:55 a.m. PST

My mistake. I thought she was one of the six.

StarCruiser05 Mar 2018 7:54 a.m. PST

Chesapeake was one of the six original frigates ordered for the rebuilding US Navy. Philadelphia was not, nor was Essex or an number of subscription frigates…

The original frigates were:

USF United States (44) 1797
USF Constitution (44) 1797
USF Constellation (38) 1797
USF Congress (38) 1799
USF Chesapeake (38) 1799
USF President (44) 1800

Notice that only 3 were launched in 1797. The others were delayed by budget and the end of the Quasi-War with France.

None of them were identical. When built, United States and Constitution were probably the closest in appearance and design but, United States was altered with a "roundhouse" added to her stern that increase draft aft and reduced her handling and speed – hence her nickname "Old Wagon".

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.