"How Long Before Carousel, For Those 30 And Older?" Topic

How long before de-materializations become mandatory for anyone over 30? In a century? Two? Never?

I just hope they don't have the added indignity of having to wear those silly costumes.

Dan

They can't just catch me on a bad day and turn me into Soylent Green?

Exactly. Just give me a final snack/dinner* and a movie. That's a much better way to go.

Dan
* Unless it's a Tuesday. :)

I'd run.

Sandman: "Run, runner, run!"

Dan
PS. Watch out for Box though.

RENEW!!!

It'll never happen--it would put all the insurance companies out of business. Who do you think really rules us?

And once again…

Be nice to your children, they choose your retirement living !

MMR jabs will trigger self destruct I guess at about 60 ish so the govt won't have to pay out pensions …

I'm equal to three 18 year olds, so I'm safe for a while… ;-)

"There..is…NO…SANCTUARY!"

I always had problems with the Malthusian panic mongering, especially because right at the time where the Club of Rome predicted we'd all be chomping on Soylent Green and having illegal sexual intercourse just before going off to the Carrousel, we had the Green Revolution and even though the population is higher than ever, endemic famine is increasingly becoming the exception rather than the rule.

Granted the human footprint is a wee bit too much for our planet, but culling and (in)voluntary state mandated suicide makes for good movies, but has no basis in reality. Again the Club of Rome was terrified that Third World populations would explode and eat up everything in sight and what happened is that once people had access to half-decent health care and child mortality went down, people stopped making children. Countries that a few decades ago were trying to forbid having more than one child are now even reversing course on the matter because childbirth is starting to dip below the population's replenishment rate. Who would have thunk that pulling people out of poverty actually IMPROVE things ?

If anything right now the nightmare scenario is ending up a decrepit, senile centenarian strapped to a bed in a Soviet era style geriatric facility with just enough flashes of lucidity to understand they won't let you die other than of old age.

In the Logan's Run book, the age was actually 21. Guess they had to up the age for the movie, otherwise they couldn't cast Michael York… ;-)

Zephyr1

You are absolutely right! In the book it was 21. :)

But in real life the "voluntary" suicide movement will probably start with pressuring people of 60-65 years of age. That will save all the young ones from having to save anything for retirement and from paying for social security. Live now for there's no tomorrow, right?

Dan
PS. By the way, here's the late Ogden Stiers in ST:TNG episode "Half a Life" (aired 1991), about another society that considers it your duty to end your life at a particular age, in their case at 60:
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no sandman ever ran

Patriot2

I never said it was already happening, but it does seem to come up in Sci Fi shows and movies every so often, as part of what the future might bring for youth-centric societies.

Dan

At least two people that I know were given the medication to make their terminal loved ones "comfortable".

I think that the right to die can easily be turned into the responsibility to die.

That said, I fully agree with the right to die and I would want to exit on my own terms under the same conditions.

VCarter: "I think that the right to die can easily be turned into the responsibility to die."

We as a species do seem to have a tendency to derail or corrupt everything, don't we?

Dan

it seemed to me that you have to jump through a thousand hoops

I'm not sure that administrative burden is a barrier to coercion. There are hundreds of other life choices, each with lots of process and overhead, that people get pressured into all the time.

Brian the dog-"What about him,he's at least 50."(camera cuts to Snoopy);^) Incidentally.I'll be 55 next month.

And in the TV series version,Francis(Logan's chaser) finds that the Domed City is run by people over,way over 30 ,and hidden from most of the people. And Logan(Gregory Harrison) and Jessica find a mecha who helps them;Rem(Donald Moffatt)in their adventures.

Etotheipi: "There are hundreds of other life choices, each with lots of process and overhead, that people get pressured into all the time."

Very true. Peer pressure and pressure to fit in for one. Also pressure "to do the right thing", if exerted constantly and from multiple directions.*

So the world doesn't need to turn into some INGSOC-USSOC totalitarian regime for a society and its politicians to exert those types of pressures on some of its citizens, specially on those who might be seen as an obstacle to their social and economic goals.

If it can be conceived, then anything is possible, even if only remotely probable.

Dan
* It's unbelievable the influence that detrimental input from a single "friend" can have on an individual who is already in a state of emotional hopelessness:
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Apparently foreplay gets even shorter in the future.

Dan
PS. "The Circuit" seems to be a combination between an online "hook-up" site and a transporter.

Well since I'm 61 … they missed me at 30 …

Humorous Attempt Alert !!!!!

And good thing both that guy and gal will die by 30. As many years later she could say she was harassed, etc. … Or maybe since it's a Sci-fi movie about the future, he can claim the same !

It's just a joke folks … I'll be here all week ! Try the meatloaf !

Wanted to, but it was all gone, like a bat out of hell… ;-)