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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2018 8:33 a.m. PST

All,

Okay, I need a refresher on a couple points.

1. If a British unit splits, half under the officer, half with the sergeant, do the halves take seperate tests?

2. In the Battle of the Chamla Valley sample game, the Pathans appear to be splitting their units. How is
this possible if native units only have one leader?

Nick

SgtGuinness02 Mar 2018 9:17 a.m. PST

Hi Nick,

That is a good question and it depends on how you are using them? They are part of the same unit, move and fire on the same card, so should really test as one unit. However if they are not within line of sight and one half doesn't know what the other half is doing, I would think they would be reacting independently of each other until reunited.

Just my $0.02 USD

Cheers,
JB

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2018 9:24 a.m. PST

Jeff, That makes sense as far as European troops gos, but what about the case of the Chamla Valley game. It clealy says that the Pathan leader had half units in different locations, and they only have a single leader.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2018 9:38 a.m. PST

The half without the leader would take their morale test on the "without a leader" column?

Tom Reed02 Mar 2018 9:45 a.m. PST

Yes, I think they would test as "leaderless".

Liliburlero Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2018 11:15 a.m. PST

They would test as leaderless so 79thPA and Tom Reed are correct; that's how Dad handled it. He said if you split off from your unit, there were "consequences". However he also said play the rules the way you and your group want to, so SgtGuinness is also correct.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2018 11:19 a.m. PST

Thanks Lori, I will take yours as the definitive answer. :) Getting back to TSATF after an absence of several years.

Mad Guru02 Mar 2018 11:48 a.m. PST

Also, in addition to suffering "leaderless" morale consequences, the leaderless half will have to make a "leaderless to move" die-roll simply in order to move.

SgtGuinness03 Mar 2018 8:18 a.m. PST

Mad Guru, yes, you are correct, the half unit of native troops would need to roll leaderless on all tables.

Nick, That is why people rarely split native units unless they have a clan leader nearby to attach or they are defending favorable terrain or a structure.

Cheers,
JB

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2018 6:38 a.m. PST

Jeff,
That of course makes complete sense. My question was based solely on the description in the Chamla Valley scenario.

SgtGuinness05 Mar 2018 3:33 p.m. PST

Hi Nick, agreed sir, just putting in my 2 cents, LOL. Since I've not designed that scenario I'd say play it as you'd like it sir. I can only surmise the author intended them to act as leaderless based on the scenario specs. It's a great 2 person scenario. Fortunately or unfortunately we always have so many folks come to our TSATF games weather they be at the cons or the clubs that they always tend to be big games.
Cheers,
JB

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