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Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 6:20 a.m. PST

So I'm watching this movie (again one of my favorites!) last night and started to wonder if it could be gamed.

If you wanted to do it what rules would you use / how would you go about it ?

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 6:29 a.m. PST

harpoon? remember it they fire one…we'll fire one…FIRE ONe SIR!!!!!!…Noooooo!!!!!!!!!

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 8:42 a.m. PST

Yes. I don't see how that blunder could be gamed.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 8:44 a.m. PST

I am not sure what there is to be gamed.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 9:48 a.m. PST

No, not the blunder. I'm thinking of a two-player game – 1960's era US DD and Soviet Sub.

Similar to The Enemy Below but with modern ship / sub.

I've heard of but never played Harpoon – is is complex – ?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2018 2:59 p.m. PST

It is probably not complex if you have your Surface Warfare Office pin. I have no interest to ever play it again.

Trierarch23 Feb 2018 5:16 p.m. PST

The sub-systems in Harpoon are not complex, using all the sub-systems together is.
I'd say it was eminently suited to this sort of game, but you really need an umpire for games with Subs (or any game where ships begin out of sight.


daveshoe23 Feb 2018 6:11 p.m. PST

I agree with Trierarch that the different parts of Harpoon are not complex and you wouldn't need all of them to play this out, just movement detection and combat. I would also recommend a referee in this case.

I would also suggest finding a copy of the book version of The Bedford Incident. It is very different from the movie.

Dave S.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2018 6:14 a.m. PST

There appear to be different versions of Harpoon available. For a game in this context does it matter which version is used – ?

I'm also looking at 'Snapshot' and 'Shipwreck': does anyone have experience with these sets – would they work – ?

Daveshoe: I didn't know that, thanks: will be ordering the book.

daveshoe24 Feb 2018 11:43 a.m. PST

Joes Shop, you can use either the 3rd or 4th edition Harpoon rules for this. The 3rd edition is probably easier for all-over modern naval combat, but hasn't been updated for newer ships (which shouldn't be an issue in your case). The 4th edition adds more modifiers for sonar, so might be more satisfying for this type of game. Once you get the rules, I would suggest checking in on the Admiralty Trilogy Yahoo group if you have questions.

Regarding the Snapshot rules, I'm not sure if they have older ships included in the rules. I saw that the author is updating the rules to something called "Conn… Sonar" – there was a post here about it a couple weeks ago. You might want to check on that and the Facebook page.

Regarding the Shipwreck rules, I don't think the submarine rules work very well for one-on-one actions (but I also don't like the Shipwreck sub rules, so you can take that into account when making your decision).

You could also look at the Surface Battle Group rules, but I'm not sure how well supported they are.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2018 12:28 p.m. PST

Daveshoe: thanks again, excellent info!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2018 5:19 a.m. PST

"I would also suggest finding a copy of the book version of The Bedford Incident. It is very different from the movie."

Dave: I followed your recommendation and ordered / received the book. You're right, very different, complex characters and a surprise ending!

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