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Tango0117 Feb 2018 9:18 p.m. PST

… Howitzers With One New Cannon.

"The U.S. Army is soliciting ideas for a single new howitzer to replace all of the towed 105mm and 155mm types in its Stryker-equipped and regular light infantry brigades. The service says it is particularly interested in upgrades for or modification to its existing weapons, especially lightweight 155mm cannons, or various types of self-propelled guns, though it is willing to consider other concepts.

On Feb. 14, 2018, the Army announced it would be studying its options for this "next generation" howitzer in a notice on the U.S government's main contracting website FedBizOpps. Though there are no firm requirements as of yet, the new weapons would have to be at least as portable and lightweight as the existing 105mm M119 and 155mm M777 towed howitzers, but hopefully have better range and accuracy and be more mobile…"
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Lion in the Stars18 Feb 2018 7:26 a.m. PST

Hrmmmmmm…

at least as lightweight as the M119 or M777. Tough call, since the M119 is only 5000lbs, while the M777 is 9000lbs. Not sure how much lighter you can make a 155mm gun.

Longer range is most easily done by longer barrel, but the GPS-Guided ammo that glides to the target would also work.

bsrlee18 Feb 2018 9:25 a.m. PST

Depends on how long you expect it to last. If you expect to scrap the whole mount when the tube wears out then you can shave a lot off the mount and tube weight. They are getting pretty good at calculating fatigue life of components, IIRC a Glock pistol barrel is designed with a life of 30,000 rounds, and it fails within a few hundred rounds of that.

Lion in the Stars18 Feb 2018 7:48 p.m. PST

Big gun barrels seem to last for maybe 5000 rounds before the rifling is worn enough to cause problems, but point taken. IIRC, the 16" guns only last about 750 rounds full power.

Maybe if we went back to old-school built-up gun barrels, with a thin barrel liner made of steel and then outer layers of composite. Rifling wears out you can just pull the liner out and replace that (though you'd probably replace the whole barrel assembly in the field and send the barrel back to depot to pull the liner out).

PrivateSnafu19 Feb 2018 7:37 a.m. PST

Seems like a waste of money. Plenty of other needs more important.

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