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15mm and 28mm Fanatik14 Feb 2018 10:14 p.m. PST

When I posted the original Challenger 1 cards: TMP link I got the armor values (F18/S8/T2) from the cards someone posted on this forum before the "Iron Maiden" supplement came out: link

But some say the front armor value should be 19. The card Skytrex posted gave the Challenger 1 armor values of F19/S10/T2 (same as the M1 Abrams IPM1 upgrade): link

I'm not sure which is more accurate for TY so I'll give you a choice by posting two sets of cards, one for the lower values and one for the higher. You pay 1 point more if you want the higher armor values, just like the M1 IPM1 costing a point more than the "vanilla" Abrams.

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Lion in the Stars15 Feb 2018 10:05 p.m. PST

Coolness, thank you for making these!

Navy Fower Wun Seven21 Feb 2018 12:56 a.m. PST

Yes thanks mate!

15mm and 28mm Fanatik21 Feb 2018 8:34 a.m. PST

The BF Chieftain card only allows 2-3 tanks per troop (platoon) so you might want to conform to that limit. I allowed 4 by mistake because for some reason I thought it's 2-4 per tank troop.

In TY US tank platoons are 2-4 tanks but British and West German ones are 2-3.

LDC27121 Feb 2018 8:01 p.m. PST

Hello 28mm Fanatik,
Can I ask how you make your cards? Do you have a template that you could share? I'm trying to make a bunch of unit cards for South Koreans/alternative U.S. army units and would love to do them like yours.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik22 Feb 2018 9:33 a.m. PST

@LDC271

I did not use any templates or even Photoshop. MS PowerPoint and Paint are the main applications I use. I use an existing BF card in jpeg format as the basis and build it up in layers. I crop elements from existing BF cards and paste them onto the new cards in PowerPoint. If I need to replace text or art on an existing card, I cover up or paint over the old information first. New text are created in PowerPoint using the fonts called "Calibri" (for headings and other sans serif text) and "Times New Roman" (the serif text of the stats and special rules descriptions on the back of the card). Precise positioning of elements like text boxes can be performed by selecting it then holding the CNTL key down and using the arrow keys for minute adjustments.

For the picture I do Google searches for artwork and photos of models and choose the ones I like. I then use PowerPoint's tool to remove the background (i.e. making the background behind the subject transparent) and save the picture as a PNG (portable network graphics) file before inserting it onto the card.

As for the profile silhouettes (front, side and top), I download model instructions for the tank which includes these two-dimensional views. After cropping the individual profiles, I convert them from color to B&W using MS Photo Gallery's exposure adjustment feature. The quickest and best way is to shift the black bar below the "Histogram" from left to right until the profile picture becomes a silhouette.

Once I created the first cards, subsequent ones become easier and quicker because I can simply use the earlier ones as a semi-template and adjust/change what I need.

The card size comes to approx. 3.12" x 4.29". I position one side of the card on top of the other flipped upside down so that I can cut it out, fold it right down the middle before laminating it at my local FedEx store.

If you want to try it, I can send you one of my PowerPoint files. If it's ROK army you're creating cards for, I would suggest making a new border to reflect the nationality.

Fawlkes25 Mar 2018 12:37 p.m. PST

Hi @28mm Fanatik. I'm pleased to see you discovered the card I wrote for the article concerning the Skytrex Challenger. I'm mildly unimpressed that you attribute Skytrex to my own work… and, We deliberately did not include points in our cards, given that Battlefront might have their own ideas for it.
We also deliberately didn't use Battlefront's template, as despite you wiping off the copyright notice, you are still using Battlefront's copywritten template.

Again, interesting you found us, but not impressed that you are skirting copyright law, and didn't properly credit my creation.

Lion in the Stars25 Mar 2018 11:37 p.m. PST

Oh, that was your work? Cool, thanks for laying the groundwork.

That big "unofficial" seal in the top left corner is enough to keep BF happy, as confirmed by conversations with BF.

seneffe28 Mar 2018 3:17 p.m. PST

Very interesting review article on the Skytrex Challenger in the second link of the OP. It underestimates the number of Challengers available to BAOR in the TY time frame but otherwise very good.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik28 Mar 2018 4:11 p.m. PST

Again, interesting you found us, but not impressed that you are skirting copyright law, and didn't properly credit my creation.

My deepest apologies for the misattribution. I "assumed" it was Skytrex because I got to the Breakthrough Assault page describing their Challenger I's where your card is by clicking on a link on its website. Didn't realize it was a third party article. Sorry.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik09 May 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

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Lion in the Stars09 May 2018 9:19 p.m. PST

Thank you for reposting!

15mm and 28mm Fanatik27 Jan 2020 11:38 p.m. PST

New card from BF. Armor even better than I thought.

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More info on the new British releases here: link

Col Piron28 Jan 2020 8:38 a.m. PST

The pts are in the TY V2 rule book .

FA20 are 11 pts each , HQ 1 or 2 tanks , Troops 2 or 3 tanks

FA21 are 13 pts each , HQ 1 or 2 tanks , Troops 2 or 3 tanks

Also the pts for the Warrior plts and other units are in the rule book .

15mm and 28mm Fanatik28 Jan 2020 9:04 a.m. PST

Yeah, just picked up a copy of the WW3 TY v2 rulebook. The new British army book replacing Iron Maiden will drop next month.

The FA of the M1A1HA will probably be similar.

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