Help support TMP

"Field Guns in the FIW" Topic

11 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.

Back to the French and Indian Wars Message Board

643 hits since 13 Feb 2018
©1994-2018 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 9:48 a.m. PST

With the imminent launch of Sash & Sabers' FIW Kickstarter, I will most likely be picking up a British 6-pdr and a French 4-pdr.

Outside of forts, it looks like British field guns would only likely appear in battle if a batoe could get them there. Correct?

What about French 4-pdrs same restrictions, or do they manage to haul them around a bit easier?

historygamer13 Feb 2018 10:56 a.m. PST

It depends on the theater. The British dragged guns (horses) twice over the Allegheny Mountains – in 1755 and again 1758. Some of those guns were 12s, howitzers, heavy and light 6 pdrs.

On that front the French and Canadians never brought out any guns from Fort Duquesne. Those guns were likely on four wheeled carriages, perhaps a few left over from Braddock's train too.

Off the top of my head, I don't recall the French fielding guns outside of forts other than Ste. Foy or the sieges they conducted at William Henry and Oswego.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 11:53 a.m. PST

The French used artillery pieces on the Plains of Abraham.

historygamer13 Feb 2018 12:19 p.m. PST

I think your right, but I don't recall them being of much account in the field battle. Perhaps because the French advanced, which kind of negates period artillery support.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 12:39 p.m. PST

Looking at the Osprey for Fort WIlliam Henry, the French landed artillery on the second day of the second seige. So yes, bateau-borne guns.

It looks like the French regularly assigned Artillerymen and their Officers as combat engineers without any guns in tow. During the first seige, armed with lots of fuses, they were doing their best to set fire to everything in the neighborhood.

I really need to make up a unit of Artillerymen equipped with trail axes and satchels of fuses!

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 12:47 p.m. PST

Osprey's Quebec 1759 estimates 5 French guns positioned on the flanks.

rvandusen14 Feb 2018 4:43 a.m. PST

Montcalm brought guns by bateaux to siege Fort Oswego, though this was a more formal siege.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2018 6:29 p.m. PST

I think your right, but I don't recall them being of much account in the field battle. Perhaps because the French advanced, which kind of negates period artillery support.

According to the French had 4 cannon at Plains of Abraham, 2 on the right under Dumas and 2 on the left flank under Senezergues.

The British also brought field pieces up from Lanse-aux-Foulon, one on the right under Monkton and one in the center under Murray.

Apparently they did fire grape shot, but Historygamer is correct, they were of no real account in the battle. Same with the higher caliber French batteries of Sillery and Samos. These also didn't really have any effect on the battle.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP25 Feb 2018 7:08 p.m. PST

Fortunately, the guns being not much account in a field battle is just perfect for having one on the table in a skirmish game!

Looks like I will be happy having one of each from the Sash & Saber Kickstarter, and they will get some play.

historygamer27 Feb 2018 7:32 a.m. PST

The problem with gaming F&I is that there really were very few instances of British and French troops meeting on a field anywhere, let alone have guns. Love the period, but it is a very hard one to recreate on a game table at anything beyond skirmish level.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2018 8:21 a.m. PST

I've been tempted by the figures for a several decades but never bought any until recently finding a set of skirmish rules that grabbed my attention for the period. Thanks to Donnybrook, I now have a burgeoning collection of skirmish forces.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.