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Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Feb 2018 1:56 p.m. PST

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New ECW rules due out at Salute; some explanation about the basic mechanics of the rules, which are due out at Salute in April.

paul liddle12 Feb 2018 4:06 p.m. PST

I am really looking forward to getting a hold of these rules, I bought To the Strongest from you last month and have had some really good games with them.

Joe1870 Supporting Member of TMP12 Feb 2018 7:01 p.m. PST

I'm interested as well. Went across the pond to Salute last year and it was a blast. However, can't make it this year. Bummer.

Codsticker12 Feb 2018 7:11 p.m. PST

I am looking forward to them as well. I have only played a couple of games of TtS but really like the way the game plays.

grambo Inactive Member13 Feb 2018 8:34 a.m. PST

interesting and informative interview Simon, I will definitely pick up a copy as I think they will work well with my own large units. Magnificent figures too!

Lee.

Timmo uk13 Feb 2018 11:01 a.m. PST

Looking forward to reading the rules. I like the notion of the exchange of musketry.

I definitely agree with your comment about making the most of the opportunity to have stacks and stacks of flags.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 12:50 p.m. PST

Thanks all- am very much looking forward to Salute.

Timmo, the number of glags is astonishing; almost one mini in ten. Looks great!

mollinary13 Feb 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

Hi Simon,

Awesome number of glags! How did you manage that, every time I tried it predictive text kept changing it to flags!

Timmo uk13 Feb 2018 5:04 p.m. PST

I think the trick is to do as you have done and to not put the flags in with the pike figures but instead have them on separate command stands, then you can be really flexible with how you use them. For my 1644 based Oxford army I have lots and lots so I can suggest multiple small regiments combined to make a battalia. Like you I can do four flags to a regiment. I have mine mounted in pairs with an officer on a round base.

I've got another 20 flags to paint to add to my Parliamentarian forces with plans for yet more.

Stephen Ede Borett is writing a book for Helion on ECW flags both foot and horse which I think is due for publication later this year or early next. I think it's the first modern single volume that covers both.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Feb 2018 5:29 p.m. PST

The other convenient thing about having the flags separate is that I can do multiple command stands- so the same regiment could be Rupert's bluecoats or an early war Parliamentatian unit.

The Helion book sounds very useful! One to look forward to.

Timmo uk14 Feb 2018 2:38 a.m. PST

Yes that exactly. I rebased my old army so I could swap unit IDs as required.

I keep the defining sash colours to the command stands orange for regiments in Essex's army. Yellow for units in Waller's and red or rose for Royalists plus a few non conformists with black (must do a Blackadder officer one day). It's been suggested that those under the command of Fairfax may have worn blue sashes but I've never really seen this confirmed.

I suspect the Helion book will become a bit of a bible for the ECW gamer.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Feb 2018 3:28 a.m. PST

Yes sashes; the other thing to watch out for is monteros, they seem to have been largely confined to Royalists (particularly the Oxford army). The Oxford army also seem to have had matching coloured trousers, unlike most regiments where trousers might be a civilian grey or brown.

Helion are doing some great work!

Timmo uk14 Feb 2018 12:03 p.m. PST

The original version of Old Robin's Foot is worth hunting out if you don't have it.

My plan is to work my way through the LTB flags in 'London and Liberty' next. My army is very old some figures dating back 37 years now but I still add to it and do lots of conversions. I add details like apostles using plastic rod.

I always think the thing with the ECW is the sheer mass of cavalry that's needed. Proportionally more so than most other periods I expect, especially the main Oxford army.

arthur181522 Feb 2018 6:16 a.m. PST

Just watched the interview; interested to see how the principles of To The Strongest have been adapted for ECW, so I'll be looking out for the rules in due course.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Feb 2018 8:11 a.m. PST

The piece that the interview relates to has been published in the latest Wargames Illustrated- there's a fair amount of details and lots of pics, too

Timmo- I know what you mean! I have Buff Blindness.

Drunken skunk Inactive Member19 Mar 2018 9:10 a.m. PST

The best, modern book on ECW flags is Volume 5 in the "Fahnen & Standarten" series. Stunning full colour book. In German, but nothing that my very basic schoolboy German can't handle. Collates all published research into one volume. Recommended. I believe there is another book, in English, that does the same thing (not sure if full colour) but twice the price of the German language book. Both listed in Caliver's lists.

Royal Marine Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2018 7:29 a.m. PST

Rules received and very pleased with them, thanks Simon. No aces in sight yet!! Question about basing options, which I know are many. I'm considering a Baccus Army Boxed option which will provide more than enough figures:

(1) Will 8 foot and 12 cavalry provide a balanced force in this rules system (using 60x30mm bases)?

(2) How would siege and field artillery best be represented 30x30mm or one big base of 60x30mm? I assume light artillery (being only a marker attached to a unit) can be represented by 30x30mm bases.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Mar 2018 8:51 a.m. PST

Ahoy Royal Marine!

(1) Yes that would be fine. Have a look at the Montgomery scenario- that might be a good place to start- there are around 2 dozen units (including several small units), so it's not a huge modelling effort. It gives a great game!

(2) Siege and field guns are in pairs so I would go for a 60x30. The light artillery piece I'd put on a small base, so that it can be fitted next to the unit it is part of, perhaps 10x30 deep?

The rules have been out for around a week and are selling very well- over 1/4 of the print run is already in the post. There's a bit about them here:-

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Royal Marine Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2018 11:35 a.m. PST

Avast BigRedBat, thanks for coming alongside with your answers. Happy sailing.

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