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18 Aug 2018 10:50 a.m. PST
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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 9:46 a.m. PST

So while I have very little knowledge about the pretender.

He doesn't seem very impressive.
Was it basically "we don't like the status quoe so anything is better?

advocate05 Feb 2018 9:58 a.m. PST

'Everything was better in the good old days'

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 10:15 a.m. PST

The Jacobites wanted the restoration of the pro Catholic Stuart dynasty, lost when James II got forced from the throne by William of Orange.
They had credence only in that the French saw a restoration of the Stuarts as a way of making England less hostile, if not and ally.

KhivaJoe Inactive Member05 Feb 2018 10:42 a.m. PST

Paradoxically enough the most genuinely popular of the Jacobites in Scotland was Monmouth, he was appreciated when he was Viceroy and could have counted on significant support…. so he went and landed in Cornwall!!!!

Lee John Ayre05 Feb 2018 11:01 a.m. PST

Wasn't Monmouth trying to claim the throne from James ? Not much of a Jacobite !! :-)

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member05 Feb 2018 11:53 a.m. PST

Think of Bonnie Prince Charlie as an C18th Rock Star.

Definitely not much substance but the hype transcended this.
And his Groupies would go to extraordinary lengths for him.

He dressed not unlike one too…..

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 12:00 p.m. PST

He dressed not unlike one too…..

Isn't this him preforming in front of the highlanders before Colluded?

Vintage Wargaming05 Feb 2018 12:12 p.m. PST

They couldn't get a referendum

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member05 Feb 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

Probably more like this, GF:
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Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member06 Feb 2018 5:37 a.m. PST

A gay Italian dwarf wi' a drink problem, you say? Fair enough, he's the very fellow fur us!!! Let me just put on ma nightshirt and tartan picnic rug, an' we're off tae England!!!

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP06 Feb 2018 8:25 a.m. PST

Just someone to rally around which gave the Scots an opportunity to kill more English.

JimDuncanUK06 Feb 2018 9:45 a.m. PST

To quote W Connelly (Billy)

The only member of a royal family to be named after three sheepdogs.

Legbiter06 Feb 2018 3:44 p.m. PST

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? If it do prosper, none dare call it Treason." Jacobitism was a treason that failed, Orangeism one that succeeded. The personal magnetism, or lack of it, pertaining to their protagonists is neither here nor there – money, ships, foreign alliances, the [bought] adherence of powerful figures were, are, and aways will be, the things that matter.

steamingdave47 Inactive Member08 Feb 2018 9:56 a.m. PST

@Rallynow – think it was an opportunity for Scots to kill Scots. The Campbells took full advantage.

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