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Brownand04 Feb 2018 1:52 p.m. PST

As the title say, what are the preferred rules

wrgmr104 Feb 2018 2:12 p.m. PST

Rapid Fire.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 2:22 p.m. PST

My modified FoW, Flames of Awesomesauce:


Frothers Did It And Ran Away04 Feb 2018 2:47 p.m. PST

Chain of Command. I picked up Disposable Heroes II recently, hope to give it a run soon with my 20mm eastern front collection.

Haven't found a "company" level game I like yet, Battlegroup probably nearest miss so far.

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 3:03 p.m. PST

Battleground WW2 if you can find the rules, the Toofatlardie rules are good.

Basha Felika04 Feb 2018 3:09 p.m. PST

Chain of Command, platoon level actions.

TMPWargamerabbit04 Feb 2018 3:22 p.m. PST

WR uses FOW Ver3.0. Ver 4.0 doesn't work due to the command radius rules with 20mm models plus I think the Ver4.0 roll out schedule and rules have issues still greatly unresolved.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 3:36 p.m. PST

I ported a lot of ASL over to miniatures but if I had to pick an existing set it would be Rapid Fire.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 3:44 p.m. PST

Depends on the scale:

Skirmish / 1:1 – Cross of Iron or Battle!

1 Base = 1 Squad / Section: CrossFire!.

I routinely play ASL and have converted numerous scenarios to Crossfire!

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 3:49 p.m. PST

Blitzkrieg Commander for 1 base = 1 platoon.

Greebs04 Feb 2018 4:02 p.m. PST

Battlegroup – the writers focus on creating fun gameplay that feels right for the period hits just the right spot for me – it also has one of the most novel mechanics I've ever encountered in a game that results in a steady flow of tense, nail-biting games.

It has enough granularity that a skirmish with an infantry platoon can still make for an interesting game, but enough scaleability that it won't break down when you start having Platoons of tanks rolling around.

deephorse04 Feb 2018 4:06 p.m. PST

Rapid Fire for simplicity. Panzergrenadier Deluxe for more of a thoughful game.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 4:08 p.m. PST

Nuts! 4th Edition.


jdginaz04 Feb 2018 5:05 p.m. PST

"I Ain't Been Shot Mum" for Company level

"Chain of Command" for skirmish

New Jersey Devil Inactive Member04 Feb 2018 5:10 p.m. PST

Battleground World War 2.

I was an early play-tester, and its still my "go to". My gang love the system and we always have a good time playing it.

We have tried many and its the game we come back to.

Rich Bliss04 Feb 2018 5:35 p.m. PST

Command Decision.

Fatman Inactive Member04 Feb 2018 6:01 p.m. PST

Battle by Charles Grant

More current TW&T for Platoon level

IABSM for Company level

Rapid Fire for Higher.

But I love the old Battle rules.


Fatman Inactive Member04 Feb 2018 6:03 p.m. PST

Oh and I have enjoyed the few games of Battlegroup I've played.


peterx Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 6:25 p.m. PST

My favorite is Iron Ivan's Disposable Heroes- Original Flavor for 20mm scale. We usually play about a platoon or less with some armor, but we have played larger and smaller games. In this system, it is one miniature equals one men, but the squads move and fire together. It is a game that you can learn easily, but if you use real WWII tactics then the rule set will reward that.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 6:25 p.m. PST

Another vote for Rapid Fire

Syr Hobbs Wargames Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Feb 2018 6:53 p.m. PST

Battleground WWII. I have been playing for many years. And why are the rules are to find?


I've been carrying these rules for years.

I am also impressed with the Battlegroup rules previously mentioned.

Not sure if this has been asked but what are you after in a 20mm WWII game?


TacticalPainter0104 Feb 2018 8:51 p.m. PST

I think most rules are fairly scale agnostic these days, so there are no set of rules I play because they are good for 20mm. I play Chain of Command and Crossfire in 20mm and both work well, but I play them because I think they give a plausible historical outcome, that's my key criteria for picking a rule set. It's just coincidental that my miniatures are 20mm.

Black Hat Miniatures05 Feb 2018 1:17 a.m. PST

PanzerMarsch or Battlefront:WW2


Andy ONeill05 Feb 2018 1:30 a.m. PST

I use my own conversion of stargrunt 2.

blacksmith05 Feb 2018 2:20 a.m. PST


twicethecaffeine05 Feb 2018 2:44 a.m. PST

Rapid Fire

gianpippo05 Feb 2018 2:49 a.m. PST


Dexter Ward05 Feb 2018 3:27 a.m. PST

Chain of command for a platoon a side
I Ain't Been Shot Mum for a company a side
Battlefront:WW2 for a battalion a side

TunnelRat Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 4:27 a.m. PST

Rapid Fire & Battlegroup

10mm Wargaming Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 4:33 a.m. PST

I would recommend Rapid Fire Rules. Hope it helps.

As always, comments are appreciated.

Take care


Puddinhead Johnson05 Feb 2018 4:59 a.m. PST

Why does scale matter? – ie why would rules "made for" 28mm or 15mm not work for 20mm?

nickinsomerset05 Feb 2018 5:02 a.m. PST

Battlegroup and Panzermarsch,

Tally Ho!

Serge6905 Feb 2018 6:41 a.m. PST

Rapid Fire

daler240D Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member05 Feb 2018 6:46 a.m. PST

I ain't been shot mum

tayerigonz05 Feb 2018 6:48 a.m. PST

Rapid Fire and Battlegroup

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 6:54 a.m. PST

Battlegroup for me.

To a degree scale doesn't matter. However I always think that you are best going for a ruleset that the chosen scale has been written for. But that's just my opinion.

yankincan05 Feb 2018 7:37 a.m. PST

Command decision III

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP05 Feb 2018 8:59 a.m. PST

Battlegroup here, too!

evbates05 Feb 2018 11:01 a.m. PST


MajorB05 Feb 2018 11:25 a.m. PST


Desert Fox05 Feb 2018 1:49 p.m. PST


Mejiro05 Feb 2018 2:43 p.m. PST

We play 'Simultaneous Battlefront'; a heavily modified set of Battlefront:WW2 rules evolved over many years of play (currently using version 2.3) to make the games faster, more realistic and more fun. It allows us to fight anything up to and including regimental sized battles in 20mm.

Thomas Thomas05 Feb 2018 2:43 p.m. PST

Of course I'm highly partisan but I recommend Combat Command.

One of our goals was to establish a 20mm rule set that would appeal to WWII history buffs but also those with lots of 20mm miniatures that would like an FOW balanced army type game with a large enough player base to find opponents.

You can play it in 15mm – works fine – but we would like to establish a home for 20mm players. Will be running games at both NashCon and Historicon (just did a Bulge game at Siege of Augusta). Always enjoying meeting more 20mm gamers.

Thomas J. Thomas
Fame and Glory Games

brucka05 Feb 2018 2:47 p.m. PST

Fireball Forward Battlegroup aArc of Fire Chain of Command Nuts! Rapid Fire!

dandiggler06 Feb 2018 10:53 a.m. PST


PiersBrand06 Feb 2018 12:40 p.m. PST

Battlegroup… ;)

Timmo uk06 Feb 2018 3:05 p.m. PST

Chain of Command

VonBlucher06 Feb 2018 7:29 p.m. PST


7dot62mm07 Feb 2018 1:57 a.m. PST

Battleground Command – my BGWWII & Chain of Command hybrid :)

nazrat07 Feb 2018 7:55 a.m. PST


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