"SABOT round for US 57mm in Normandy" Topic
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| Hornswoggler | 30 Jan 2018 4:32 a.m. PST |
Looking back through some of my old notes, there was quite a bit of discussion around the original topic of availability of APDS for US 57mm ATG on the old Combat Mission forums. A few of the more useful threads: link link link More if you search… |
| Thomas Thomas | 30 Jan 2018 1:20 p.m. PST |
A few comments: The British with basically the same data/info as the US designed and issued the 7.6XL and even managed to cram one into the turret of an M4 prior to June of 44. They were available in useful numbers in Normandy – and thank goodness as the UK divisions faced the bulk of the German Panzer forces and nearly all the Tigers (both I & less common II). Meanwhile the US was unable to get the 7.6L fielded at all (for whatever reason/misconception) and in any case it was inferior to the already issued UK solution (which was better than even the still further down the road US 9.0L which in any case appeared as in tanks only very late). None of this in the end mattered much on the operational level (though it did on the tactical level) because the Germans were 1) outproduced by the allies 2) sent the bulk of the Panzer force to the Russian front (which had big cat killers) and 3) as mentioned on the Western front the UK faced most of the Panzers deployed on the Western front (at least until August '44). Hence US tankers could ply their craft against German Infantry for which the 7.5N gun was adequate. These factors bailed out the bad decisions made by the US "deciders" (perhaps mislead by bad feedback). It does not, however, make them good decisions. The UK understood the potential menance of the Tiger I (encountered in 43) and guessed correctly that the Germans would manage to field heavier tanks in '44 than '43. They took positive and inovative methods to meet these problems.
The US did not. But in the end we got lucky. (And it should also be mentioned that crew competance helped a great deal as experienced German crews were chewed up on the Eastern front). TomT |
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