Winston Smith | 18 Jan 2018 10:06 a.m. PST |
We've had some spirited discussions about movies that should not have any remakes. How about movies that were so bad they ruined it for those who enjoyed the source material? Your reasons are irrelevant. I'm not setting any criteria. If YOU think the movie was bad and needs to be remade, well then, so be it. In fact, it doesn't even have to be a bad movie. If you think "Patton" should be done with cgi and "better tanks", go right ahead and nominate it. It doesn't matter if I disagree. My first choice would be The Hobbit. My God, what was he thinking? The plot is basically the same as the book, but after the party at Bilbo's house, it may as well be a remake of The Goonies. Ok. Ok. Smaug was cool. |
USAFpilot | 18 Jan 2018 10:14 a.m. PST |
"Nightfall" based on Isaac Asimov's award winning science fiction short story. Maybe no one has even heard of the movie (actually two movies) because they were so bad. With a good script and a decent budget, it could be a great movie. I'd also like to see The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings for a redo. |
Son of MOOG | 18 Jan 2018 10:16 a.m. PST |
Starship Troopers….with REAL MI this time! While the movie is entertaining if viewed with the right frame of mind (think 1940's propoganda movie) it was NOT the book and I'm sure many people would love to see the actual book as a movie. Tom D |
Pictors Studio | 18 Jan 2018 10:39 a.m. PST |
I second Starship troopers and third the Hobbit. Also Lion in Winter. I know it has a remake and I'm glad it does because the one with Katherine Hepburn is unwatchable. |
Stealth1000 | 18 Jan 2018 10:43 a.m. PST |
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attilathepun47 | 18 Jan 2018 10:47 a.m. PST |
"Prince Valiant." The classic Sunday newspaper strip was wonderful, even if based on no reality, but the 1950's movie was AWFUL and couldn't possibly be ruined by a remake. |
robert piepenbrink | 18 Jan 2018 10:48 a.m. PST |
The Conqueror. I still say the script was workable or better. Starship Trooper done straight is an excellent idea. And holding with my earlier suggestion, Patton for a partial update. Keep George C. Scott. Lose the Cold War tanks. |
PaddySinclair | 18 Jan 2018 10:49 a.m. PST |
The Hobbit, most definitely, as a single movie like it always should have been. Much more the boys own adventure than the sweeping "epic" we got. Bits of Jackson's films were great, but the whole was just lumbering. Loved the Verhoven Starship Troopers, but would certainly welcome a more faithful adaptation. |
robert piepenbrink | 18 Jan 2018 10:56 a.m. PST |
You know, just for fun. Earth Star Voyager. That thing had all kinds of potential. (What I really want is Earth Star Voyager: the HBO TV series. But let's start with the movie.) Does anyone else even remember it? |
DisasterWargamer | 18 Jan 2018 10:57 a.m. PST |
Add the Scouring of the Shire portion to the Lord of the Rings The Patriot and Revolution both need a remake The Phantom |
SpuriousMilius | 18 Jan 2018 10:58 a.m. PST |
I dream of 1st rate productions of Tarzan & John Carter that are true to the novels in setting, historical period & characterization (such as Jane & Dejah Thoris being indomitable but not "Action Heroines"). |
johnbear44 | 18 Jan 2018 11:24 a.m. PST |
The original "Sands of Iwo Jima" staring the Duke is a classic. But how awesome would a modern day remake be. |
Vintage Wargaming | 18 Jan 2018 11:25 a.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 18 Jan 2018 11:35 a.m. PST |
SpuriousMilius: "I dream of 1st rate productions of Tarzan & John Carter that are true to the novels in setting, historical period & characterization (such as Jane & Dejah Thoris being indomitable but not "Action Heroines")." Dream* on. That would be shot down in an instant in today's PC climate. Dan * I'm dreaming the same dream as you, about both films being done right, in keeping with the original novels, without all the whitewashing. :) |
RittervonBek | 18 Jan 2018 11:36 a.m. PST |
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doug redshirt | 18 Jan 2018 11:36 a.m. PST |
The first three Star Wars. Completely ruined the prior 3 movies. |
jedburgh | 18 Jan 2018 11:56 a.m. PST |
Damnation Alley – post apocalyptic film with George Peppard. |
Gunfreak | 18 Jan 2018 11:57 a.m. PST |
Second Waterloo! Would also like a remake of those german quasi propaganda movies about Frederick the great from the 40s |
The Virtual Armchair General | 18 Jan 2018 11:58 a.m. PST |
"The Caine Mutiny." The cast was superb, the script excellent, but the special effects and the generally low-budget approach of all Columbia Studios productions under the suzerainty of Harry Cohen limited the film's impact. He's just starting to be too old for the part, but Tom Hanks would make a VERY effective Captain Queeg, playing against type. If you've not seen it, or not for some time, watch it--it still has resonance and relevance. TVAG |
Parzival | 18 Jan 2018 12:06 p.m. PST |
The Eagle of the Ninth. Do it right, or don't do it at all. Don't remake The Patriot or Revolution. We can do a heap sight better than those two travesties if we'll just get a decent script in the first place. As much as I love the originals, The Thief of Bagdahd could stand some modern effects and movie skills. But these days it would turn into a PC diatribe, so maybe not. The Phantom, with a better plot. The Shadow, ditto. And no Baldwins. (Except Adam, who's not a relation and is terrific.) Definitely yes on The Hobbit. An Arthurian film that's neither dreary or absurd. Can't say there's an actual one to remake, but a whole lot to do better. A Wrinkle In Time. Yes, the new one isn't out yet. It's still gonna suck; it contains the Goddess Who Is Oprah, so that's a given. Every Star Wars film made after TESB, if that were possible. But you'd have to completely rewrite the scripts. And cast absolutely no one under the age of 15, except for necessary infants. And No Ewoks! Or Jar Jar! (Sorry, Capt. G.) John Carter of Mars. I liked it, but they blew the marketing. Studio executives are idjits. Serenity. Okay, actually, unmake that and give us the series again. Superman. Any of 'em. The Last Starfighter, with less cheese. The War of the Worlds, in Turn of the Century England. (Okay, you can boost it to the WWI era, because Biplanes and Zeppelins vs. Tripods are just too awesome to not do). Alexander the Great The Trojan War Flash Gordon, faithful to the comic strip serial, without the camp. (I loved it, but a good non-comic remake would be welcome). Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. The Magic Sword The Black Arrow The Hound of the Baskervilles. (If they treat the tale with respect, the Downey-Law approach could be fun. Unfortunately, it's not as "world threatening" as the previous two films, and they'd probably go overboard on the plot. Plus, most of us already know the big surprise.) |
Mick the Metalsmith | 18 Jan 2018 12:15 p.m. PST |
The next Master and commander |
TonicNH | 18 Jan 2018 1:14 p.m. PST |
I respectfully submit "Battle Of The Bulge" for consideration. |
Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 1:16 p.m. PST |
All the re-boot new Star Trek movies. Things I would change: 1. Fire JJ Abrams 2. Kirks young career should have followed the story line set forth in classic Trek. It would be like Horatio Hornblower. The Enterprise is years away and the main characters would gradually show up over several movies. No way someone would graduate from the academy and right away become ships Captain. Captain Pike should play a prominent role as the Enterprise's first Captain. What a great series of movies as the young Kirk works his way through the ranks and have some great adventures. 3. No romance for Spock. 4. Never, ever blow up Vulcan. What a stupid thing to have happen. 5. Spock would not be on the faculty or staff of the Academy. 6. Remember that Kirk got a commendation for beating the unbeatable scenario. He wasn't punished for it. Also the scene was a bit campy. 7. Keep the guy that played Bones he was the only one that nailed it. |
Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 1:34 p.m. PST |
The new Star Wars series. I don't know what to do but I know you don't simply copy the first three movies that came out, New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and The Return of the Jedi. I still don't understand that first new one was about the message of New Hope, whatever. It might be too far gone to fix. Another JJ Abrams screw up. Why after all these years they are still using the same ships, technology and uniforms? |
Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 1:35 p.m. PST |
This is all very cathartic. |
Joes Shop | 18 Jan 2018 1:42 p.m. PST |
Sands of Iwo Jima. Sink The Bismarck! Waterloo. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 18 Jan 2018 2:35 p.m. PST |
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Kropotkin303 | 18 Jan 2018 2:49 p.m. PST |
The Keep by Michael Mann based on the book by F. Paul Wilson, I enjoyed the first film but age has not been kind to it in terms of effects and sound. It may already be up for a re-make in reality as many have wanted it. The original cast were all top-notch. |
Cerdic | 18 Jan 2018 2:56 p.m. PST |
Ok, it's not a film, but the Sharpe TV series was rubbish. Needs to be remade, either for TV or cinema, with decent budgets, plots closer to the books, less cheese, and most important no Bean. Get a proper actor who looks and sounds like a dangerous London geezer… |
Dynaman8789 | 18 Jan 2018 3:13 p.m. PST |
The Black Hole, but you have to keep VINCent and if they would get moving on it they could use the same voice actor for him. Midway could use a remake. Agree with Starship Troopers needing a remake, but the previous move was so far off the mark I don't know if it would count… |
Mollinary | 18 Jan 2018 3:17 p.m. PST |
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Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 4:31 p.m. PST |
"Gods and Generals" actually the movie script and every copy of the film in existence needs to be burned. Start all over. Don't use that book as the basis of the movie. I think a movie on Antietam is in order. The turning point of the war. Lincoln waits for some kind of victory to issue the Emancipation Proclamation. Add that historical drama to a movie in the style of "Gettysburg" and you might have something. Easy to get it wrong though. |
Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 4:33 p.m. PST |
Agree Cromwell was a terrible movie. A great ECW movie is needed. |
Old Contemptibles | 18 Jan 2018 4:46 p.m. PST |
Waterloo I have been saying for sometime on TMP that it is time for a re-make of Waterloo. The movie is great and one of my favorites. But time and technology has moved on and it is time for a great new movie. I nominate Peter Jackson to direct. No body does battle scenes like him. He has an interest in Military History and he would be the perfect choice. |
Bill Rosser | 18 Jan 2018 6:10 p.m. PST |
THEM, with current CGI. Thousands of giant ants eating up the citizens of southern California. |
wrgmr1 | 18 Jan 2018 6:39 p.m. PST |
Waterloo Flyboys Terrible movie; a good movie about the Lafayette Escadrille Patton Battle of the Bulge Guadalcanal Diary |
Coelacanth | 18 Jan 2018 6:42 p.m. PST |
A new production of Richard III. I have nothing against Sir Ian McKellen's 1995 alternate history version of the story, but would like to see a big-budget version set in the correct period. It's an oft-told tale, so "new production" rather than "remake". I would also like to see a remake of On Stranger Tides that takes fewer liberties with the source material, i.e. uses more than the title of Tim Powers' novel and the public-domain character of Blackbeard. When first I read the novel I said to myself, "That would make for an amazing movie!", but then Disney got hold of the rights… Ron P.S. I would like to see a re-edit of Peter Jackson's King Kong, but that's a different topic. |
Stryderg | 18 Jan 2018 6:47 p.m. PST |
Robin Hood, the one with Errol Flynn, not the one with Costner. In color and with modern sword play. Hmmm. Maybe not, Robin would end up being a ninja. Wing Commander – that could have been a good movie. |
robert piepenbrink | 18 Jan 2018 8:03 p.m. PST |
I like the Damnation Alley suggestion. Something slightly off. Don't remake the original Howard/Oberon Scarlet Pimpernel, but make a really nice restored, remastered copy and perhaps colorize it. With all the money that sloshes around Hollywood, you'd think they'd be better at restoring and preserving classic films. Unless they just don't like the competition. |
Grelber | 18 Jan 2018 9:12 p.m. PST |
Escape from Colditz--The movie versions I've seen just didn't click. The Hobbit--please! I wasn't too pleased with a number of parts of LOTR, either. I was particularly unhappy to be told Théoden wanted to retreat, then they held up a map clearly showing they were moving closer to Saruman's forces. The last version of Four Feathers was very disappointing. The Long Ships was OK, but Bengtsson's novel deserved much better. Not a remake, but I'd love to see a film with the Army of the Cumberland storming Missionary Ridge in November, 1863. Grelber |
basileus66 | 18 Jan 2018 10:22 p.m. PST |
Starship Troopers The Charge of the Light Brigade The Red Badge of Courage Any Alien's franchise movie released after Aliens the Return. |
Cacique Caribe | 19 Jan 2018 12:50 a.m. PST |
Beau Geste. Just kidding. Dan |
Mikasa | 19 Jan 2018 3:42 a.m. PST |
"The War of the Worlds, in Turn of the Century England. (Okay, you can boost it to the WWI era, because Biplanes and Zeppelins vs. Tripods are just too awesome to not do)". I have news for you…. link |
Cacique Caribe | 19 Jan 2018 6:14 a.m. PST |
Mikasa Well I just hope the Victorians in the film act like Victorians, instead of characters with 21st century values and sensibilities who simply happen to dress up as Victorians. Dan |
Schogun | 19 Jan 2018 6:16 a.m. PST |
Found a list of reported remakes/reboots for 2017-2022: imdb.com/list/ls052091214 Starship Troopers is on the list. Gee -- can't wait for yet another version of A Star is Born, this time with Bradley Cooper and lady Gaga. |
Jeigheff | 19 Jan 2018 6:16 a.m. PST |
Cromwell, Battle of the Bulge, Waterloo. Maybe The Blue Max and Alfred the Great? |
Mick the Metalsmith | 19 Jan 2018 7:17 a.m. PST |
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miniMo | 19 Jan 2018 12:07 p.m. PST |
@Stryderg, Errol Flynn already re-made Douglas Fairbanks' Robin Hood — and a great manyl of Fairbanks' other movies! Flynn was pretty good at playing Fairbanks, but Fairbanks is better ^,^ |
dragon6 | 19 Jan 2018 2:09 p.m. PST |
Dan * I'm dreaming the same dream as you, about both films being done right, in keeping with the original novels, without all the whitewashing. Or clothes ;-) |
rvandusen | 19 Jan 2018 4:16 p.m. PST |
I'm another vote for Damnation Alley. I think the original film lacked the budget to closely follow Zelazny's novella. |