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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian17 Jan 2018 3:52 p.m. PST

The German Navy's latest multimillion-dollar warship, the Baden-Württemberg, is battling delays and technology challenges…


Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2018 4:26 p.m. PST

I see that the wedding of U-boats with Dreadnaughts didn't quite work out.

On a serious note, are the new ships in ANYBODY's navy working out?
It seems that all new ships reject technology.

VonTed17 Jan 2018 5:37 p.m. PST

No sonar seems like a poor choice

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2018 6:30 p.m. PST

..same story everywhere in Europe…But it was on Trials that;s what they are for to find these things,,

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2018 6:58 p.m. PST

First of four designed to replace eight existing ships.

Continuing to downsize in the face of increasing challenges at sea does not seem to be such a good idea.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

Generalstoner4917 Jan 2018 8:13 p.m. PST

No sonar? No torpedo tubes? Yeesh.

carne6817 Jan 2018 9:51 p.m. PST

The latest symptom of "Network Centric" Warfare. If the Bleeped text hits the fan, nobody cares if you have a Wi-Fi enabled cappuccino machine. If you don't have SONAR and torpedoes, what the Bleeped text are you doing? Apparently, the Bundesmarine wasn't content to sit back and watch the US Navy's LCS debacle, they needed to have one of their own.

Hier, halt mein Bier…

Lion in the Stars17 Jan 2018 10:40 p.m. PST

7000ton 'Frigate'?!?

That's more like a DD.

Anyway, how can a modern warship not have torpedoes or sonar? You can't rely on your own-ship's helo and your escorts (especially when it seems that the entire German Navy is going to be these ships)!

With dual-crewing, that will let a ship have about a 75% hull availability, as opposed to the usual 33% for a single crew. But it takes a lot of support to make that work. An Ohio-class sub does as many man-hours in a ~30-day refit as happens in most other ships 9-month refits! Also, only having 4 hulls makes the ships highly vulnerable to major breakages. Didn't the RN have zero deployable submarines (of the 6 they own) for a while?

I'd want 8 hulls, even if each one had to be smaller, to avoid two major casualties (like broken engine/reduction gears) tying all my ships to the pier for repairs.

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