Tango01  | 16 Jan 2018 4:20 p.m. PST |
"According to official releases from Boeing and the U.S. Air Force, the F-15 Eagle has a clear-cut win-to-loss ratio of 104 to zero. But in fact, opposing air forces have claimed, in nearly a dozen cases, to have shot down the iconic, twin-engine fighter. All the claims have one thing in common. The claimants were never able to provide any evidence for their supposed victories. The earliest report is mostly unknown to the public. Beginning in 1978, Iraqi sources claimed that an Iraqi air force MiG-23MS from No. 39 Squadron shot down an Israeli F-15 over western Iraq. Former Iraqi air force officers have repeated the claim over the years without ever offering any evidence…."
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| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 16 Jan 2018 4:26 p.m. PST |
A third-generation MiG-23 Flogger of the Iraqi Air Force having shot down a fourth-gen F-15, even if it's an early Eagle, from arguably the "world's best air force" would require great skill and no small degree of luck I'd reckon. |
| dwight shrute | 16 Jan 2018 4:44 p.m. PST |
a few went down in Independence day . |
| TNE2300 | 16 Jan 2018 5:50 p.m. PST |
it might be possible that opposing forces caused a great deal of damage to an F15, thinking it was destroyed, but it made it home anyway F15 loses wing in mid air collision
lands safely:
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| SouthernPhantom | 16 Jan 2018 6:11 p.m. PST |
The USAF lost a pair of F-15Es in Desert Storm, but to ground fire, not enemy aircraft. |
| Lion in the Stars | 16 Jan 2018 11:10 p.m. PST |
Agree with TNE2300. It's not a kill till the pilot ejects or the plane impacts the ground. Pretty sure the Israeli pilots give the USAF fits whenever there's an international meet. |
| Jeff Ewing | 17 Jan 2018 8:06 a.m. PST |
"Pretty sure the Israeli pilots give the USAF fits whenever there's an international meet." They say the ideal jet fighter would have a Russian airframe, US avionics, and an Israeli pilot. |
| Fatman | 18 Jan 2018 7:10 a.m. PST |
dwight shrute
Nope only F-18's the Air Force declined to take part. So the USMC picked up the slack. Fatman |
| Ironwolf | 18 Jan 2018 2:34 p.m. PST |
A couple were shotdown by ground fire, but I've not read any lost in air to air combat?? link Recently in the news. link Then there was this one, but I think the US said it was mechanical fault not enemy fire??
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| Apache 6 | 18 Jan 2018 3:25 p.m. PST |
Was the last US aircraft lost to air to air from Vietnam? Have any F-16s been lost to enemy aircraft? F-14s? F-18s? I cannot think of any bombers, or even transports lost to air to air? |
| Mike Target | 19 Jan 2018 5:35 a.m. PST |
I didnt think many opposing airforces actually bothered contesting airspace with the US these days due to the contest being so lopsided when training, numbers, equipment etc are all taken into account. So there wouldnt have been many opportunities to lose an aircraft in air2air combat |
| SouthernPhantom | 20 Jan 2018 9:51 p.m. PST |
Apache 6, the Navy lost an F/A-18 and pilot to an Iraqi Foxbat in Desert Storm. |
| Apache 6 | 21 Jan 2018 9:12 p.m. PST |
Southern Phantom: Thank you. I did not know that. |
| Caedite Eos | 22 Jan 2018 12:39 a.m. PST |
The Iraqis shot down a (widely disputed) number of Iranian f14s with mig 23s and mirages in the Iran Iraq war |
