dejvid | 14 Jan 2018 2:29 p.m. PST |
Between works by Homer, Thucydides, Plato, Euripides, Xenophon and Menander which do you consider to be the most "essential": link Interesting to see if an influx of wargamers will change the result significantly.
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Swampster | 14 Jan 2018 3:16 p.m. PST |
Homer is fun but Thucydides and Xenophon tell you more for wargaming. |
robert piepenbrink | 14 Jan 2018 3:26 p.m. PST |
And Herodotus didn't even make the short list? |
Swampster | 14 Jan 2018 3:48 p.m. PST |
Yeah – I'd have thought that if it was going to only have two histories, Herodotus would have been one of them. |
Pictors Studio | 14 Jan 2018 3:49 p.m. PST |
If I could only have one history book it would be Thucydides. |
sillypoint | 14 Jan 2018 3:55 p.m. PST |
Xenephon's "Anabasis" for me. |
Sobieski | 14 Jan 2018 4:26 p.m. PST |
Xenephon. Good introduction to the era, maybe the best. |
Frederick | 14 Jan 2018 5:28 p.m. PST |
Loved Xenophon but for a single book, Thucydides |
Gone Fishing | 14 Jan 2018 5:45 p.m. PST |
My God, gentlemen. Homer. |
nevals | 14 Jan 2018 5:54 p.m. PST |
Thucydides for me. The other day , my daughter asked me which book I would take with me to the desert island. Easy one, "History of the Peloponnesian War". |
nnascati | 14 Jan 2018 6:39 p.m. PST |
Homer first, then Thucydides. |
robert piepenbrink | 14 Jan 2018 6:59 p.m. PST |
No chance for Thucydides with Xennophon's Hellenica just to finish up the war? |
whitejamest | 14 Jan 2018 8:40 p.m. PST |
Sophocles. Easily the greatest until Shakespeare came along. |
miniMo | 14 Jan 2018 9:37 p.m. PST |
Euripides gives us much more entertaining gaming material! |
GurKhan | 15 Jan 2018 2:03 a.m. PST |
Weird shortlist. Menander, but no Aristophanes or Sophocles? |
langobard | 15 Jan 2018 2:49 a.m. PST |
Homer, Herodotus, Sophocles, honorable mention to Xenephon. |
Sobieski | 15 Jan 2018 5:13 a.m. PST |
Homer may be the most overrated storyteller in all literature (I admit, Hemingway rivals him). |
Martian Root Canal | 15 Jan 2018 6:38 a.m. PST |
Homer, Herodotus, Polybius (he wrote about Rome in Greek), Thucydides. |
robert piepenbrink | 15 Jan 2018 8:21 a.m. PST |
With no disrespect to Homer, no one can be more over-rated than Hemingway. But every now and then he knocked one out of the park. Read "The Undefeated" some day, even if you have to read Death in the Afternoon to pick up the fine points. Some of the short stories in Fifth Column are respectable, too. As for Homer, read the Iliad. Skip the Odyssey. |
dejvid | 15 Jan 2018 11:56 a.m. PST |
Interesting. Even though Thucydides and Xenophon have had a boost, Homer retains his dominant position as most of those not placing him first have placed him second. I guess I should have expected that – the Ancient Greeks themselves would certainly have agreed. Yes, on reflection, Herodotus, Polybius, Sophocles and Aristophanes should all have been on the list. Menander was on the list because his plays were quite distinct from the other playwrights who wrote with the unashamed aim of just being fun while Aristophanes' humor always had a serious point. |
Sobieski | 15 Jan 2018 4:25 p.m. PST |
I'd question whether the majority calling Homer so great have read him in the last twenty years. |
nnascati | 15 Jan 2018 5:19 p.m. PST |
Wasn't there someone with Alexander who wrote a sort of eyewitness account? I googled it, but could not come up with anything. |
Gone Fishing | 15 Jan 2018 6:31 p.m. PST |
Sobieski: I can't speak for others, of course, but I try to read all of Homer every year (in reality it's probably every 18 months). He never grows old, is as fresh as when I first read him in school,never fails to provide new insights to life and the human condition, and is, at least for me, one of those rare authors who cast a spell to such a degree that one can slip into thinking there is no other literature but this. The only other writers who do this for me personally are Dante and Chaucer. Wagner does this in music. |
Winston Smith | 15 Jan 2018 7:24 p.m. PST |
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dejvid | 16 Jan 2018 2:52 a.m. PST |
>>Wasn't there someone with Alexander who wrote a sort of eyewitness account? I googled it, but could not come up with anything. Lots, Ptolomey and Callisthenes to name two (though Callisthenes had a little trouble completing his account) but they are all lost. We could always run a poll on which lost work should be unlost (assuming we somehow get hold of a time machine). |