von Winterfeldt | 14 Jan 2018 6:19 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 14 Jan 2018 10:28 a.m. PST |
That dappled grey horse……….I could do that….I could….well I will save the picture and try to do that, anyway. I like the touch of single colour for the rest of the horses in the squadron. All are chestnuts, not a bay amongst them. Blued swords for the officer. Even gold inscription on the bluing. Great |
Duc de Brouilly | 14 Jan 2018 11:50 a.m. PST |
That the painting is exquisite, almost goes without saying. I too was admiring the grey. But I was also interested in the choice of facing colour. 'Capucine' was the official facing colour of this regiment; it's usually shown as orange or a reddish orange. However, I've read a suggestion (by Rigo I think) that in Egypt, the facings were changed to crimson. I'm guessing that's what's being shown here. |
von Winterfeldt | 14 Jan 2018 12:49 p.m. PST |
It shouldn' be crimson, seemingly the colour I tried out, did not work as anticipated, but that is the curse of experimentation, according to the cloth samples in the Kleber files the facing was "scarlet" looking at the cloth samples it did not have that yellowish tinge so I tried this hue – leaning too much into crimson. |
Duc de Brouilly | 14 Jan 2018 1:17 p.m. PST |
I knew there were cloth samples for all the infantry demi-brigades but I didn't know there were cavalry ones as well? I've found the Rigo article (Uniformes, number 76). He refers to an order of January 1800 for crimson cloth for the regiment. |
von Winterfeldt | 14 Jan 2018 2:23 p.m. PST |
there were cloth samples for all units – also this kind of yellow beige for the train. |
Duc de Brouilly | 14 Jan 2018 3:13 p.m. PST |
The Perrys posted a photo of the infantry cloth samples on their Facebook page. Have you seen pictures of the other samples? |
von Winterfeldt | 15 Jan 2018 12:48 a.m. PST |
Indeed I have, but I have to repaint the red, looking again at the colours of the cloth samples, merde. |
deadhead | 15 Jan 2018 5:48 a.m. PST |
I have to say I would not. We all know what happens to modern pigments. Back then, in Egyptian sun and remembering how lighting and photography renders any colours……. They will be different if you do, but not better! That grey….the subtlety to make him look unlike a rocking horse with dapples as is all too common |
von Winterfeldt | 15 Jan 2018 6:23 a.m. PST |
No – really – it has to be re painted – I looked again at the cloth samples, clearly not crimson – indeed a nice red, more like scarlet. I will put up the pictures when mission accomplished ;-)) |
Duc de Brouilly | 15 Jan 2018 10:21 a.m. PST |
Dear von W Could I ask where you found the pictures of the cloth samples? Surprisingly, as I believe he was the person who found them, they are not in Yves Martin's recent book. |
von Winterfeldt | 15 Jan 2018 12:26 p.m. PST |
Yves Martin did indeed find them – his new book is just the top of the iceberg. |
Duc de Brouilly | 15 Jan 2018 1:11 p.m. PST |
But where does one find the iceberg! |
von Winterfeldt | 15 Jan 2018 2:04 p.m. PST |
Best is – ask Yves Martin |
Duc de Brouilly | 15 Jan 2018 3:22 p.m. PST |
I suppose I will have to, as other sources are closely guarded . |
von Winterfeldt | 19 Jan 2018 2:53 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 20 Jan 2018 8:47 a.m. PST |
Now I confess I have no idea which version was the more accurate. But the revision is the more striking. I just knew this was worth doing…of course I did…….? |
von Winterfeldt | 20 Jan 2018 11:50 a.m. PST |
Yes I think it was worth it, certainly more scarlet than it was originally. Still, mentally not easy to re do a work – one thought finished. |
archiduque | 22 Jan 2018 4:26 a.m. PST |
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