"Transport for VDV Airborne" Topic
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| alan L | 10 Jan 2018 11:05 a.m. PST |
Any particular transport used by the VDV in Afghanistan, or was it BMPs? |
| Bellbottom | 10 Jan 2018 11:54 a.m. PST |
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| alan L | 10 Jan 2018 3:09 p.m. PST |
Thanks. Any suggestions for suitable models in 28mm from a UK supplier? |
| Lion in the Stars | 10 Jan 2018 4:42 p.m. PST |
BMPs are too heavy to be carried by the An6 and An12. BMD ('fighting vehicle of the Airborne') was the result. BMD-1 had a turret with the same gun as a BMP-1, BMD2 had the BMP-1 turret.
BMD3 is bigger than the -1 (and -2) and has the BMP2 turret. BMD4 is the same chassis as BMD3 but with the BMP3 turret (the one with the 30mm and 100mm). BMPs are close enough to BMDs statwise that you can just use BMP stats if your game doesn't have BMD stats.
Wish I could help you with models, but I game in 15mm and don't mind ordering from other countries.
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| Likui006 | 10 Jan 2018 10:08 p.m. PST |
Empress miniatures have BMD's in 28mm! |
| shaun from s and s models | 11 Jan 2018 2:10 a.m. PST |
the vdv started with bmd's and when they got blown to bits they started to use bmp's. |
| Vigilant | 11 Jan 2018 5:17 a.m. PST |
Or Sloppy Jalopy. Available direct or from Sally 4th. |
| seneffe | 11 Jan 2018 3:39 p.m. PST |
I think that the VDV units only used their BMDs during the initial period of the war.
Within the first year or so, the units which remained in Afghanistan morphed from being airborne assault forces into all purpose elite troops permanently stationed in theatre. So they swapped their BMDs for standard BMPs and BTRs which were roomier and more capable of sustained operations, to be used as required. They also of course remained equipped and trained for airmobile (and I guess even parachute) operations. Also of course they just slogged up the hills on foot or defended remote outposts for prolonged periods as socialism demanded….
I think (lwu) that the squads and platoons of VDV units permanently based in Afghanistan may also have been re-organised to match standard motor rifles ToE- ie a bit larger.
The refs for this are I think either in Isby's '10 million bayonets' or Rodric Braithwaite's 'Afghantsy', but I'd need to check.
So in short, what vehicles the VDV used depends on when, where and what the mission was. |
| alan L | 12 Jan 2018 3:01 a.m. PST |
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| LDC271 | 14 Jan 2018 4:56 p.m. PST |
Early BMD-1s were made with a magnesium-alloy hull, which had a nasty tendency of catching fire when hit. |
| Virginia Tory | 16 Jan 2018 12:23 p.m. PST |
What seneffe said. VDV was in BMPs and BTRs after the initial phases of the war, given the vulnerability of the BMDs. |
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