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rivers316208 Jan 2018 4:12 a.m. PST

So I am looking medieval naval wargaming to link into a War of the Roses campaign my local club will be running. I know exiled Yorkist & Lancastrian partisans acted as pirates and harassed shipping at various points in the wars and saw a very nice 28mm naval game featuring the Earl of Warwick a few years ago.

However, I have a couple of questions:

I am thinking of using the Lord of the Sea rules – does anyone have any experience with them and if so, what are your thoughts? (I've looked for a review but can't seem to find much)

I've downloaded a few free scenarios for lord of the sea (not WotR) and the ships that feature are Cogs, Carracks, Nefs & Galleys. Does anyone know of a manufacturer who makes them all? I was considering Outpost's 1/1200 range but they only make Cogs and Galleys.

Finally, can anyone recommend any books on medieval naval warfare for a newbie?

KSmyth08 Jan 2018 6:29 a.m. PST

Rivers, I've only played the fleet rules, which I enjoyed very much.

It's a challenging project because there is so little surviving evidence, and even the meaning of terms, like ship types are confusing.

I live in the U.S. and found the Outpost miniatures prohibitively costly for my purposes, I needed a lot, so I scratch-built two fleets, mostly cogs. It was challenging to my generally not very capable scratch-building fu.

Books--England's Medieval Navy by Susan Rose provides a solid overview of the period. Henry V's Navy by Ian Friel is very good. You might have better luck getting Graham Gushway's Edward III And the War at Sea in the U.K. I could only get an 3-book.

Fascinating period, good luck.

KSmyth08 Jan 2018 10:28 a.m. PST

Oops, that should read e-book, rather than 3-book

David Manley08 Jan 2018 2:24 p.m. PST

Ral Partha Europe also do some nice medieval cogs, smaller than the Outpost models. And there is also a nice even smaller one in the Navwar 1/1200 range.

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