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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian03 Jan 2018 5:00 p.m. PST

Rate these rules as a miniatures ruleset, on a scale of 0 (awful) to 10 (excellent).

Mick the Metalsmith03 Jan 2018 5:05 p.m. PST

1. Far too bland.

fredavner Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 5:16 p.m. PST

7 ( at the moment)
We play it with Miniatures 6mm, 15mm or 28mm)
An evening of fun
But then again I play Piquet's FOB2 and Les Grognards and Shako for fun too
( ex Empire player)

Scott MacPhee03 Jan 2018 5:38 p.m. PST

10.

USAFpilot03 Jan 2018 5:55 p.m. PST

9. Enjoyable, I'm a regular player.

Not really a miniatures ruleset though as the game is played on a hex grid versus a free flowing tabletop. The rules are well written and easy to understand. I like the Napoleonics version of this game better than Ancients or Memoir '44. The only critique is that with games which involve rolling dice and drawing cards I feel a little too much luck is involved.

Calico Bill03 Jan 2018 5:58 p.m. PST

1: Too bland, too random.

Wargamer Blue03 Jan 2018 7:25 p.m. PST

9. My Napoleonic fix.

Dynaman878903 Jan 2018 7:34 p.m. PST

6 – Not bland to me but not crunchy enough either. For those looking for a simple game with a Napoleonic theme it is excellent.

advocate04 Jan 2018 12:17 a.m. PST

8, for the reasons given above.

USAFpilot, it's not really a miniatures game because it normally uses blocks, not figures. FWIW I've played several figure games on grids and indeed, one of those is Command and Colors Napoleonic.

Dances with Clydesdales04 Jan 2018 4:19 a.m. PST

9 If I'm looking for a quick and simple game, and sometimes I definitely am. Otherwise there are other options for more detailed rules.

redbanner414504 Jan 2018 5:55 a.m. PST

4 – Doesn't feel like Napoleonics to me.

coopman04 Jan 2018 6:52 a.m. PST

8. One of the few really playable Napoleonic systems. By playable I mean in 3 hours or less. My days of playing a wargame for 20 hours on a weekend are OVER!

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2018 6:54 a.m. PST

I would say 8 – I use blocks but if I got off my butt and made some stands with 6mm minis might rate it 9; it is a good quick way to play and a plus is that is easy to teach to a non-Napoleonics gamer who wants to try it out; I usually play with my boys, who are mostly sci-fi gamers

Rudysnelson04 Jan 2018 7:58 a.m. PST

I first played it two decades ago before he had decided on a publisher. As with all of his games Richard was playtesting with miniatures. We were at one of the Florida conventions, then at Tampa. The forces were in 25mm.
So they all can be miniatures or board games. Very flexible.

I would have to give it a 10 for several reasons. The main reason is that it is a solid work of design. The mechanics are simple but flow. Just think how many years they have been on the market! Other designers have released several editions over the same length of time. For example one set is on four while back in time another historical set reached six or seven.
Under this system, there has not been constant cost of new editions being forced on the players.
Yes you have to buy army expansions but with miniatures you would be spending money on castings, paint, bases and time.
So for a board game it is great.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2018 8:08 a.m. PST

We use 25mm figures on bases. Have a "capture the flag" game with whoever can get all the opponent's falgs declared the winner. We've slightly modified the card sequencing and playing.

Albeit not a "Napoleonic" feel, it does give a good game that sometimes goes right down to the wire.

Here's a sample of how we handle it: link

Jim

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2018 9:29 a.m. PST

Nicely done, colonel.

SBminisguy04 Jan 2018 9:54 a.m. PST

It's a fun, simple game -- and a great way to introduce people to Napoleonic wargaming. If the bug strikes, there's a wide range of other more complex rules you can tap.

paul liddle04 Jan 2018 12:10 p.m. PST

10- I love it. I always get a good and entertaining game with the Commands and Colors series.

Legbiter04 Jan 2018 12:49 p.m. PST

9.

cj177604 Jan 2018 2:21 p.m. PST

Solid 9 for me.I deducted one point for having to sticker all those G**D*** blocks.

marshalGreg04 Jan 2018 3:09 p.m. PST

Per the OP "Miniature rules"
and
To get past a 4, there needs to be more than Block or stand minitures, for a specific unit (be it btn, regiment, brigade or Div) represented on the table top.

So I give it a 1
Additional support to this low rating:
since it is a board game and us "miniatures" folks had to figure out a method to use our figures with the rules.
and
these are not miniatures rules ( with the miniature in mind during drafting) but board game rules.
A block is not a miniature.

Yes i know you have Grand Armee etc. ( which I really like as a grandtactical game)….. But they are only be a 3 since they too can just as easily be played with a block for the unit as C&C and do not meet the above criteria completely for "Miniature rules".
They were design with figures in mind (I think) but are a single stand for the unit.

yes I guess I am the grinch
MG

getback05 Jan 2018 3:15 a.m. PST

10. They are currently my group's Napoleonic game of choice. Used with figures on a nice table they look great. The way they play flows well and gives a credible narrative (which is what I am looking for). The mechanisms and stats can be kept in your head after half a dozen games. A standard game takes an hour or so (played two last night).

For me a key strength is in the scenarios; they are very well designed. They help frame each game and have encouraged me to research each battle before and after playing it through.

They are also solo friendly. I can try a scenario with the blocks solo and then transfer to the table with miniatures when a friend wants to play.

Jeigheff05 Jan 2018 6:22 a.m. PST

7. I think the game and its components are beautiful. It also plays smoothly. But I wish the game was a little less random.

All Sir Garnett13 Jan 2018 12:16 p.m. PST

8 A good game

svsavory02 Apr 2018 8:57 p.m. PST

As a miniatures ruleset, I would only give it a 5. As a boardgame, my rating is a 9. Fun game; I own all the expansions.

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