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22 Jun 2019 7:16 a.m. PST
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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian02 Jan 2018 6:52 p.m. PST

Which manufacturer made most of the historical ironclad models in your collection?

Personal logo Choctaw Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2018 6:55 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred is all I own. Toby does beautiful work.

pmwalt02 Jan 2018 7:00 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred is what I own.

Private Matter02 Jan 2018 7:04 p.m. PST

Mostly Thoroughbred with about a quarter being Bay Area Yards.

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2018 7:13 p.m. PST

15mm old glory and waterlined display models:



Ceterman02 Jan 2018 7:38 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred. 100%.

Personal logo brass1 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2018 8:08 p.m. PST

Almost all of mine are from Tumbling Dice, because they're primarily British and French.


21eRegt02 Jan 2018 8:44 p.m. PST

75% Thoroughbred with the balance a mix of home-built and Bay Area Yards. All 1/600, got rid of the 1/1200.

KSmyth02 Jan 2018 9:17 p.m. PST

I would guess about 70% Thoroughbred. They are great miniatures. I also have some a few Bay and Peter Pig ships. I was also fortunate to acquire some from Virtualscratchbuilder back in the day. A USS Niagara and a Vanderbilt that have gotten much use over the years.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse02 Jan 2018 9:30 p.m. PST

Stone Mountain Houstons Ships 1/1200, go figure. grin


Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP02 Jan 2018 9:43 p.m. PST

Houstons Ships, bought back before they became Stone Mountain (sorry, StoneMtnMinis). Flew to Florida in '82, and on the way back the weather was clear so I could see almost all the great, navigable rivers of Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, and I was just inspired.

Of course, I was also inspired to paint the base of the first ship brown like the rivers I'd seen, and it came out looking like it was stuck on a mud bank!


Trierarch02 Jan 2018 10:10 p.m. PST

If you count the serious sea-going ones, then they are all scratch builds in about 1/1800th.

If you count the ACW ones, mostly Navwar 1/1200th, with a few scratch built gunboats and tugs.


David Manley02 Jan 2018 10:32 p.m. PST

My collection is a broad mix of many manufacturers in four different scales, so difficult to say.

btw, is there a sticking if stone Mountain/Houston's in the UK?

Dn Jackson02 Jan 2018 11:10 p.m. PST

The old Lyzard's Grin/Houston's.

Big Martin Back03 Jan 2018 5:35 a.m. PST

A lot of my ACW collection are scratchbuilt, dating as they do to the days before a lot of models were available.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 5:39 a.m. PST

Houston's (about 2/3) and Toby's (the rest).

jdpintex03 Jan 2018 6:51 a.m. PST

80% Thoroughbred, 20% Bay Area.

Legion 403 Jan 2018 8:26 a.m. PST

Though Not historical … I use these old GW Man 'O War Dwarf Iron Clads as a Riverine Flotilla for my 6mm Epic Squats … evil grin



Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 9:12 a.m. PST

Many Man O'War Dwarf ships converted fom plastic party favour toys and scratch-built.

Commercially available (2): Dark Ops

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 11:55 a.m. PST


Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 1:54 p.m. PST


Personal logo ACWBill Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 2:08 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred, Bay Area Yards and Peter Pig all in 1/600 plus a bunch of 10mm Ironclads, most from when Old Glory Shipyards and Thoroughbred sold these models. I also have several hand made 10mm Ironclads. All are American Civil War and all have seen plenty of action!


Personal logo Bashytubits Supporting Member of TMP03 Jan 2018 3:20 p.m. PST

I do not actually have any ironclads, but I suppose 3D printing some is an option, it is not something that is in vogue in these parts. This is a shocking omission in my otherwise extensive collection of minis.

khanscom03 Jan 2018 6:21 p.m. PST

1/600 scratchbuilt for War of the Triple Alliance.

Sundance03 Jan 2018 9:21 p.m. PST

About 95% Thoroughbred. No one else even comes close. When BAY was a viable company and you could actually find out what they sold, they had a lot that Toby didn't make, but now, it's seems sort of random what they have and what they don't. Peter Pig fills some more holes, but the quality isn't even close.

Personal logo Dances with Clydesdales Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2018 4:23 a.m. PST

Thoroughbred mostly.

Legion 404 Jan 2018 7:24 a.m. PST

Many Man O'War Dwarf ships converted fom plastic party favour toys and scratch-built.
Got any pics ?

And some great looking models and boards there guys !!!! gold star thumbs up

Rev Zoom04 Jan 2018 8:39 a.m. PST

Thoroughbred, Bay Area Yards, and Peter Pig in about 60%, 30%, 10% ratio.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP04 Jan 2018 9:49 a.m. PST

Houston's with some Thoroughbred and Tumbling Dice as other scales.

MajorB05 Jan 2018 4:23 a.m. PST

Mine are 100% Peter Pig

laptot05 Jan 2018 8:18 a.m. PST

Scratch built 1/1000 about 100.

Cloudy05 Jan 2018 9:05 a.m. PST

ACWBill: That is a FANTASTIC looking 10mm setup!

Personal logo ACWBill Supporting Member of TMP05 Jan 2018 10:08 a.m. PST

Thanks Cloudy. Twas my Vicksburg campaign from a few years back.

john snelling07 Jan 2018 6:54 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred, Peter Pig and BAY in that order.

Regulars11 Jan 2018 8:14 p.m. PST

Mostly from Jim Brokhaw's 10mm ship line with two 10mm from Pentdraken.

Pyrate Captain20 Jul 2018 9:36 a.m. PST


Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Jul 2018 11:14 a.m. PST


Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Jul 2018 4:22 p.m. PST

… also … rusted.

EJNashIII20 Jul 2018 6:20 p.m. PST

Jim brokaw 10mm.

Ferozopore21 Jul 2018 8:24 p.m. PST

Being new to this, all I have is the Spithead Miniatures ironclads.

Yellow Admiral24 Jul 2018 9:46 p.m. PST

As of early 2017, mine became mostly 1/1200. I have a growing number of Langton, Thoroughbred and Pithead models, supplemented/opposed by wooden steam battleships & frigates from Red Eagle Miniatures (the old Skytrex "transitional" line), and a huge lot of badly painted Navwar and Skytrex ironclads I mostly intend to sell off (except a selection of the wooden boats, which can be dressed up and improved). There are more than a few wooden riverboats and gunboats from the Houston's Ironclads line in my collection, too.

In the mean time, Pithead keeps selling me more South American and European models, too, so the collection may accidentally become "mostly Pithead" in the next year or two, at least until I give Toby Barrett and Rod Langton more money.

- Ix

Yellow Admiral24 Jul 2018 10:24 p.m. PST

On a side note: I had no particular desire to play one of the big Union runs past a river fort until ACWBill posted this photo, above.

Now I'm thinking differently about all those Union casemate ironclads I've been ignoring…

That's a nice looking game.

- Ix

Rev Zoom02 Aug 2018 8:07 a.m. PST

70% Thoroughbread, 25% Bay Area Yards and the rest Peter Pig. Thoroughbred still makes the best of the best. Too bad, though, that Bay is no longer active as they had some great river gunboats.

Anton Ryzbak30 Aug 2018 6:42 p.m. PST

I scratchbuild mine, in 28mm


Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP31 Aug 2018 9:57 a.m. PST

Anton, those are VERY cool.

capncarp30 Sep 2018 1:03 p.m. PST

Panzerschiffes 1/2400 resin castings.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2018 2:14 p.m. PST

Old Glory 15mm.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP01 Oct 2018 2:21 p.m. PST

The big problem with doing boat and ground action as in that photo of ACWBill's beautiful game is that the ground scale is out of whack with the ship scale.

Those cliffs along the river should be much, much higher. That is assuming this is a picture of a Vicksburg game.

I tried to do the very same thing and Richard Houston talked me out of it because the scales would be so wonky.

But it is really a nice set up. ACWBill what are you using for the river?

Yellow Admiral03 Oct 2018 7:16 p.m. PST

Naval gaming nearly always suffers some scale distortion. The bigger the ship models, the worse it gets. If you're playing with 10mm (or lager) ironclads, scale accuracy is presumably among the least of your concerns, since there is no reasonable way to fit gun ranges on a 10mm ironclad gaming table without severe scale distortion. I care deeply about ground:model scale distortion, but since that was obviously totally beside the point of the game in ACWBill's photo(s), I'm willing to let that go and just enjoy the magnificence of the procession.

If I'm going to demerit that scene for anything, it's that those funnels are conspicuously missing huge puffs of black cotton wool. Are we supposed to believe this squadron is drifting down the river?!?! grin Those are some nicely done large-scale ironclads, complete with rust stains and flapping flags they deserve funnel smoke, and omitting it is an offense to aesthetes. Judging by Nashville's photos, my irrational prejudice is in good company.

- Ix

Volleyfire04 Oct 2018 9:34 a.m. PST

100% Peter Pig

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