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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Dec 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

…An 'Enormous Threat'.

"Taiwan raised alarms over China's growing military presence in a biennial defense white paper published for the first time under President Tsai Ing-wen on Tuesday, with a particular focus on Beijing's stepped-up military drills in the West Pacific.

China has been conducting more aircraft drills through the Bashi Channel, which separates Taiwan from the Philippines, and the Miyako Strait in Japan's Okinawa Prefecture, according to the 2017 National Defense Report. Chinese forces had conducted 19 long-range exercises this year as of Dec. 11. Nine happened after the Communist Party congress in October, when Chinese President Xi Jinping expressed a desire to build a world-class military by the middle of this century.

The report outlined China's military presence in the West Pacific. The forces are believed to be capable of monitoring and supporting operations in all areas west of the "second island chain" -- a strategic defense line that runs between Japan and Guam…"
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP26 Dec 2017 1:32 p.m. PST

It's not about IF. It's only a matter of WHEN.

All I know is that Beijing can do anything it wants to do in the South China Sea ANYTHING at all because it knows the US and the rest will not do a damn thing about it … except some occasional harsh words (totally expected by them, because they know we would need "to save face").

Dan

Lion in the Stars26 Dec 2017 4:58 p.m. PST

China attempting to close the South China Sea will result in war.

25% of the entire planet's maritime traffic goes through the Straits of Malacca.

Picking that fight is not in China's interest.

If it comes to a shooting war, the US can remove China from the South China Sea in a matter of hours. Since there is almost certainly already one US sub there, and the SCS is within B52 range of Guam and Okinawa.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP26 Dec 2017 7:38 p.m. PST

Let's see what happens in every situation where China makes an advance.

1) China appropriates something;
2) The West threatens to take some military action, sends a few vessels in that general direction, and tries to get U.N. support;
3) Other nations there suddenly get brave and join the outcry;
4) The West sells plenty of weapons and equipment to those nations closest to the problem and gives them assurances that the US will help them in the fight;
5) A few weeks or months pass, other news catches our interest;
6) The Western nations quietly scale down and withdraw from the protest;
7) The protests eventually peter out to almost nothing; and finally
8) China keeps what it took

Rinse, repeat.

Think about it. Why is the West making a big deal about the SCS islands now when they are almost finished and armed? Did they not see where it would lead to back in 2012 when they first noticed them being built? They are just allowing us to "save face" while we, once again, let them have their way.

There will come a day when we might actually follow through on our warnings. When that finally happens, on that day we will all get to see a different China. They are most certainly preparing for that day. And China's neighbors are all taking it seriously.

Dan
PS. This also happens diplomatically with symbolic affronts, like China warning us not to have the Dalai Lama at our White House or forbid us to land jets in Taiwan even if they are emergency landings. They know we have to protest but they know that, in the end, we'll let them have their way.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP26 Dec 2017 8:46 p.m. PST

About #4
Not terribly effective for several decades now, specially after we turned our back on all the assurances we made to Taiwan and stopped sending them all the military equipment we had promised them.

Dan

Lion in the Stars27 Dec 2017 4:00 p.m. PST

CC, you do know that in 1949 the US told Mao to go ahead and finish his civil war, wipe out the Nationalists, right?

Problem is, in the time it took Mao to move the troops and sealift down, some Stalin-backed idiot named Kim started a fight in Korea.

Which scared the US about communist expansion/Domino Theory enough that we turned around and told Mao that he'd have to go through the Seventh Fleet to take Taiwan.

We've also told Taiwan that they are on their own if they declare independence from China.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2017 4:10 p.m. PST

We have made promises to Taiwan:

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Let's see if we follow through this time:

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Dan

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