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Haitiansoldier Inactive Member19 Dec 2017 9:52 a.m. PST

Any books in English on the battles of Nördlingen, Lützen, or Breitenfeld? Just began studying 17th century military history and read but didn't like Wilson's book on the war.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 10:11 a.m. PST

Osprey has books on Lutzen and Breitenfeld.

BillyNM19 Dec 2017 10:40 a.m. PST

There's always the three volume set on Battles of the Thirty Years by Guthrie. Expensive but you could try your library if such things still exist where you are?

Phillius Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 12:22 p.m. PST

The Guthrie books are a great read, but their accuracy has been questioned.

Helion and company have a couple of books that may be of use. I have recently bought their publication on the Bavarian army of the TYW, but I have yet to start it.

Wilson is a tough read, but worth the journey. However, it is about the War, not the armies or battles. Wedgewood is the same.

Andrew Walters19 Dec 2017 1:15 p.m. PST

My starting point is now wikipedia. Not only do you get an overview, right now, for free, there's usually a decent bibliography and "Further Reading" section, and if you scan the discussion pages behind the main page you can select books from there. "External Links" leads to other sites, obviously, but a lot of primary sources are online now, so you're one step from reading arms manuals and diaries and so on.

Reading the wikipedia article and whichever follow-ons and sidebars you choose to add, doesn't give you the depth and cohesion of a book by a traditional author, but when you read one book that author dos become a single viewpoint and you don't learn about the controversies in historiography, etc. So reading wikipedia along *with* a good book let you know where that author's view fits int he spectrum of current debates. Plus you get to fill in whatever background the author may leave out and dive deeper into things the author chooses not to.

Wikipedia may be a terrible place to end your studies, but it's a great place to start your studies.

mollinary20 Dec 2017 4:21 a.m. PST

Rusty Musket. No Osprey on Breitenfeld, I fear . The Lutzen one, however, is excellent.

Mollinary

skinkmasterreturns20 Dec 2017 7:46 a.m. PST

They had a lot of style back then. Instead of saying "we chucked them out of the window" they named it "The Defenestration".

Verdugo20 Dec 2017 1:06 p.m. PST

The first two Guthrie books are available in spanish for 24€ each one by "Ediciones Salamina".

takeda33322 Dec 2017 2:52 a.m. PST

The Osprey Lutzen is a nice read with good info….. wish some of the other ones followed the same format.

huevans01123 Dec 2017 7:28 a.m. PST

There's always the three volume set on Battles of the Thirty Years by Guthrie. Expensive but you could try your library if such things still exist where you are?

IIRC, some of the resident experts – Daniel S in particular – are very much unimpressed with Guthrie.

huevans01123 Dec 2017 7:30 a.m. PST

No Osprey on Breitenfeld, I fear . The Lutzen one, however, is excellent.

Osprey was considering Rocroi a while back, I believe. But never pulled the trigger – or rather touched match to powder – on doing the book.

huevans01123 Dec 2017 7:30 a.m. PST

I wondering if there are English translations of the Alatriste series available??

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