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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 1:28 a.m. PST

Anyone tried their Reindeer Moss or their Spanish Moss?

If so, have you noticed any difference between their product and what is typically sold at model train stores?

Is it "plasticized" or something? Or … is there such a thing as artificial/plastic Reindeer Moss (aka "lichen")?

Thanks

Dan

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Durban Gamer12 Dec 2017 3:21 a.m. PST

My natural Reindeer Moss/Lichen has lasted more than 25 years in perfect condition. Keep it in transparent plastic bags which live in a big closed cardboard box. I fold the tops of the bags but do not tie them shut. So just a little air probably gets in. Don't ever wet it.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 5:14 a.m. PST

Hmm with regular hobby lichen, I can resurrect the old stuff with a spritz of water. Any reason to think this is different?

Durban Gamer12 Dec 2017 6:12 a.m. PST

Flashman, strange, if I wet any of mine, it soon turns to dust. Without water it lasts forever.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 7:25 a.m. PST

An old model railroader trick was to reinvigorate lichen with a glycerin.

Jim

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 7:49 a.m. PST

Where does one find and buy glycerin? I can never find it atbthe pharmacy store.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 8:11 a.m. PST

I've kept my second batch of lichen for the gaming table in a small plastic tub with a lid for decades and it's still moist.

the new replacement batch went into the tub after the first batch had dried and crumbled.

DAF, find it in the floral section of the big craft stores; crafters dry and preserve plants too!

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 10:33 a.m. PST

A 2 minute soak in a mixture of Matte Medium and water will
seal in almost any live "plant".

See the SuperTrees instructions on the Scenic Express site.

bsrlee12 Dec 2017 9:01 p.m. PST

For glycerine look in the cake section of the supermarket, its used in some baked goods. Chemists will look at you funny because glycerine can be used to make incendiary devices when mixed with (redacted).

IIRC the lichen reviver was a mix of water and glycerine, maybe check model railroad sites as they seem to be the major users of lichen.

Twoball Cane13 Dec 2017 8:54 a.m. PST

My woodland scenics lichen is still holding up well from ~15 years ago when I bought it…whether based or the half full amount still in the original bag. I like the look of the supernovas product.

Doctor X13 Dec 2017 2:50 p.m. PST

Order your glycerin online. Both Walmart and Walgreen's have it, just not in the brick and mortar.

I have lichen that is almost 30 years old that I gave the glycerin soak to and it's still fresh. Well worth the little effort it takes.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Dec 2017 7:50 p.m. PST

Several of you mention how well your lichen is doing "in the bag", but what happens when you put it out on the table and leave your table set up? I mean you aren't going to set up terrain with lichen and then pick it up every night.

Spring through Fall isn't the problem, it is winter when I have the problem.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Dec 2017 9:09 p.m. PST

Wow, TerrainTutor even had a video on the glycerin treatment:

YouTube link

Dan
PS. This person has a couple of glycerin recipes:
link

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP14 Dec 2017 9:16 a.m. PST

The lichen can be out on the gaming table for awhile, no problem. Long-term storage, the sealed plastic tub has kept it great on the shelf.

I think it was my 1st-generation Life Like trees which were a clump of lichen on a plastic trunk that the lichen crumbled to dust. But even they saw quite a few years of service and never being under wraps before they went the way of the compost.

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