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GARS190011 Dec 2017 6:44 p.m. PST

In the game matrerial for Space 1889, the Russians are stated to have large holdings on Venus; in this 'verse, its made clear that Venus is a hot humid jungle/swamp world. What uniforms would Russian troops wear in such an environment?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2017 6:55 p.m. PST

Hawaiian shirts and shorts, of course! :)

Dan

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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2017 7:00 p.m. PST

Seriously though, how about Boxer Rebellion Russian sailors?

Though, after a while in the heat, at the very least those sleeves would have been rolled or cut off.

Dan

Personal logo Grelber Supporting Member of TMP11 Dec 2017 9:49 p.m. PST

The initial European approach seems to have been sun helmets and white or very pale cotton uniforms.

Grelber

willthepiper11 Dec 2017 11:01 p.m. PST

According to the Soldiers' Companion, Russian forces on Venus wear "standard green trousers tucked into black boots with a white smock and forage cap. Equipment is white canvas and all men are equipped with breech loading rifles."

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 7:09 a.m. PST

Uniform would probably evolved along lines similiar to the DAK in WWII.

DLIinVSF Inactive Member13 Dec 2017 11:08 a.m. PST

Start with the period uniform and adapt to your own liking. I just stuck to the same as those serving on Mars. Though I would drop the furry hats for Venus!

GARS190019 Dec 2017 7:19 a.m. PST

I feel like I should facepalm myself; willthepiper is right, there is a guide to the Russian colonial uniform in the Soldier's Companion. I'm a little surprised they don't wear tropical helmets, but since Venus is so foggy, maybe there wouldn't be enough sun to justify it…

Aslo, wouldn't the standard green trousers be insanely uncomfortable in a wet, stinky jungle?

willthepiper19 Dec 2017 6:44 p.m. PST

Central Asia is hot and dry (except for when it's cold and snowy) so maybe not the correct analogy, but when the Russians were conquering it in the 1870s they wore a havelock-type sun curtain on their kepis:

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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 9:55 p.m. PST

According to the OP, "Venus is a hot humid jungle/swamp world".

So no dry heat. You end up feeling like your sweat never dries, no matter how much you try. I've known that kind of heat a few times in my life.

Dan

DLIinVSF Inactive Member20 Dec 2017 7:47 a.m. PST

Cacique is most correct the humidity plus native fungus
eats metal and wood (no doubt cloth) if not regularly treated.

I as said before use the period uniform of the "sailor" style soft cap (sorry the correct Russian name fails me at the moment" and just let the men suffer. After all real life shows you do lose Europeans in hot climates. Sometimes a lot. You could use earlier kepis style troops but this was used against the sun with the back cover. I don't expect the sun is the problem with the swamp gases and jungle haze.

Use native levies of Lizardmen in most cases and an unlucky bunch of NCO's and even more unlucky junior officer for deep jungle operations.

You could even drop them in using a blimp etc from a cooler height. Which is what I suspect the Germans would do using their air power on Venus. Leap frogging from base to base.

I wouldn't worry yourself too much about uniform as long as you can tell they are late 18th to 19th century troops.

willthepiper20 Dec 2017 9:00 a.m. PST

This might be a better image:

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This is what the Russians actually wore when conquering Khiva, but Khiva is in a desert.

I suspect that Chadwick intended the Russian uniform to be similar to that worn in the Boxer rebellion. White field cap, white tunic, dark trousers.
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Major Bloodnok22 Dec 2017 3:43 a.m. PST

Who's to say that the "standard green trousers" aren't cotton or linen? Think Burma rather than N. Africa.

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