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07 Dec 2017 3:58 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "Doctor who anger!" to "Doctor Who anger!"
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07 Dec 2017 6:33 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

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The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

A bit over the top, maybe.

Just saw the recent releases from warlord. Not impressed.

First, fourth, tenth doctors boxed set.
Fifth, eleventh, twelfth doctors boxed set.
You have to buy both boxes to get a free k9.

Fuming.

As a true doctor who (classic for those who don't kknow what that is) fan I have little interest in these modern fan fiction impostors.

Why warlord have boxed them this way lord only knows. I know the new tat has its fans, but there are still many who would not touch it with a barge pole. The reasons for this are another conversation entirely.

I could understand them boxing them 1,2,3 and 4,5,6 and 7,8,9 and 10,11,12. Then unlucky 13. Most classic fans would be less put off only having to buy the 9th than all the new ones.

What do you think of the boxing and the fairness to all fans?

chuck05 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian07 Dec 2017 2:40 p.m. PST

I just noticed on their website that the figures are 38mm? Pretty much kills any chance I'll buy anything as they wont mix with my other figures.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 2:43 p.m. PST

That is an issue also. I guess that was a license thing.

dragon607 Dec 2017 4:01 p.m. PST

Doesn't Black Tree still make Doctor Who figures? Or at least still selling out the remainders from… 20 years ago? evil grin

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 4:06 p.m. PST

I am so glad I got a crooked dice pertwee before they stopped selling them.

mwindsorfw Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 5:26 p.m. PST

"… lord only knows." No, Warlord only knows.

BaldLea07 Dec 2017 6:56 p.m. PST

A bit over the top, maybe.

Yep. And a sense of entitlement.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 7:30 p.m. PST

Big thanks to the editor in chief for the new board.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 7:40 p.m. PST

Entitlement?

I know I spoke on behalf of a lot of fans. I'm sure there are even new series fans who don't want classic figures. So it works both ways. A very odd/bad choice by warlord. If it was their choice. Maybe the BBC wanted themy to promote the classic range more by bundling it with the new stuff or vice versa.

Watching the dvd commentaries not many of the people who worked on the early Who seem to like the new stuff that much either (although they put their feelings more kindly than I may). It's just too radicaly different. So it's not just fans who may feel like that about it.

shelldrake07 Dec 2017 8:51 p.m. PST

If I was to start getting the Dr Who minis, I would want the classic ones, and having to buy both box sets to get K9 would be a put off for me, especially as Tom Baker was my favourite Doctor and I would be most likely to game with the 4th Doctor.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP07 Dec 2017 9:20 p.m. PST

I would assume they will eventually release doctor and companions boxed sets for the classic doctors, like they have for the new ones. I guess real question is when. Warlord seems to be dragging their heels. I thought a lot more would be available by now. This could go on for years at this pace. Remember they are also doing all the new doctors, just to slow things further (from a classic fan perspective, again that may work both ways).

billthecat07 Dec 2017 10:10 p.m. PST

Totally with you on this H-man…

Syrinx007 Dec 2017 10:36 p.m. PST

Yeah. The bundling killed it for me too.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Dec 2017 5:23 a.m. PST

I expect they thought about it very carefully. They have come to a choice that will upset some but probably work well in terms of sales and customer choice for the majority. Of course they may just be very stupid/inept and have no idea about sales and marketing.
I sympathise with your upset, but there must be a way ahead for you in terms of buying/ebay/swap etc…

good luck.

PS

Rdfraf Supporting Member of TMP08 Dec 2017 7:40 a.m. PST

I don't want the classic figures. I started watching Doctor Who when it "rebooted" and absolutely loved it so I tried watching some of the classic episodes and couldn't bear them. I have friends that just love the older episodes but for some reason they just don't do it for me.

Dynaman878908 Dec 2017 8:46 a.m. PST

The older series spans 3 decades and go through a few style changes throughout that time. Although you might not like one era you might like another.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP08 Dec 2017 10:53 a.m. PST

To anyone who has not seen the show I always highly recommend taking a look at the third doctors first season.

Reasons.

It's the first in color for weird people who don't like black and white? ??

It has one of the two only classic eps/movie not including remakes shot on film, thus released in hd. For people that way inclined.

The first season is very much based on earth for people who may have trouble with Sci Fi.

He is always trying to fix the tardis and making things like the who mobil.

Venetian aikido, "haaiii".

The third doctor is the most level headed of them all, not so silly.

The third is the first to offer consistency of production, the first two flip flipped between family and children's show, the episode numbers and story titles and face in titles took a while to appear.

It's is one of the few to seem more of an adult show, no kiddy stuff.

He surrounds himself with adult professional people. ..and Jo grant.

It features unit the military and most people are familiar with that.

He encounters every main enemy up to that point and creates several more.

He encounters the first two doctors in the three doctors, and if you follow on after, the next two in the five doctors.

His show has all the who traits, face in titles, good story episode numbers, best cliff hanger about to die face ever.

It starts a bit like the ninth in that he just appears and you get a scene of a new series not a continuation, great if you, temporarily, skip the first two doctors.

Many more…

That said. The Dalek invasion of earth from the first doctor is well worth watching. The first scene alone is a departure from a children's show. Plus it features the Daleks. It offers good suspense.

Huscarle08 Dec 2017 1:00 p.m. PST

H-Man, I'm glad that I got Crooked Dice's Pertwee figure too.
I still remember the very 1st Dr Who episode that I saw as a kid, was Jon Pertwee's arrival on Earth, and the Autons were a child's time to hide behind the sofa when they came to life. Liz Shaw was my favourite companion of the Pertwee era.
We had the original Master, the Brigadier, UNIT & so many stalwarts. Halcyon days grin

Warlord lost me as a potential buyer too – very odd scale & I'm not very keen on the modern rush around, sonic screwdriver fixes everything approach…

forrester08 Dec 2017 2:06 p.m. PST

I'm a Third Doctor fan too, from the point of view of collecting skirmish figures.
There are two useful points of reference.
Firstly, the Earthbound UNIT type scenarios..70's type British troops versus alien invaders of your choice.
Secondly, the "future wars" involving Earth, Draconia, Daleks, and Ogrons.. a "period" sufficiently fluid for dropping in your own scenario.

I can't say Warlord make me "angry". I like the plastic Daleks and Cybermen, but the larger size human figures could be an issue, and the irritating habit of selling aliens in packs of three. The rules appear geared towards little contingents but you'd be spending quite a bit on shiny boxes to get a decent squad.
My take on the Doctors sets is NOT "old versus new" [ I like both] but I only "need" one of the models in each pack and its a shame everything always has to be in a boxed set. Same problem with the companions sets.
I appreciate of course that not everyone will already have the versions previously made by others.

Dynaman878908 Dec 2017 5:50 p.m. PST

> He surrounds himself with adult professional people. ..and Jo grant.

:)

His run had one of my favorite stories "Inferno" but it also was the height of the seventies counter culture influence on the show – which is only slightly better than the mid to late eighties that featured looking at crystals for enlightenment and treated all religious characters as either fanatics or charlatans out to make a buck.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP08 Dec 2017 7:31 p.m. PST

Liz seemed to be the most mature of the three girls. I'm not sure I could pick between them. Jo seemed bubbly and fun, Sarah Jane the most defiant? Each different.

The new stuff is far too rush rush gabble gabble. Doctor Who is not designed for 45 min stories. With such a small regular cast and one regular set you need time to learn who people are and what's going on. Or you just end up not caring when people die and such.

It would have been nice if warlord released them as individual blisters.

Dodgy religious characters. Do you forget a certain monk from a decade earlier? He takes the cake. Then swaps it with the daleks for something more diabolic.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP09 Dec 2017 9:22 p.m. PST

My DVD collection includes arcs from a number of Doctors. My favorites in general and for gaming is the 4th Doctor & Leela. Leela is my favorite Companion, and a very useful character on the gaming table! The Gothic arcs of seasons 13 & 14 lend themselves very nicely to Pulp style gaming.

The H Man Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2017 5:56 a.m. PST

"Leela, Leela, Leela. Over dressed, as usual! Now, now, put the knife down."

Any true fan knows it's the swimming pool that makes the tardis.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2017 9:15 a.m. PST

LEELA: In a house this size there must be protection. The professor will have weapons in fixed positions to guard the approaches.

DOCTOR: I brought you to the wrong time, my girl. You'd have loved Agincourt.

Puster Supporting Member of TMP20 Dec 2017 8:18 a.m. PST

I have no problem with the boxing – though it is a bit weired. Will get me the set, but only after christmas to prevent gift-doubles…

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