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Osage201704 Dec 2017 8:24 p.m. PST

I think the Prussian infantry company had 14 unterofitzeren.

Did any of them had played similar role to the French corporal-fourier ?

Oliver Schmidt05 Dec 2017 2:08 a.m. PST

You had two, both in the rank of Unteroffizier and acting under the supervision of the Feldwebel of the company:

Capitaine d'Armes ("headman of weapons"): in charge of equipment (not only weapons, but also clothing).

Fourrier: in charge of food supplies and of quarters.

Le Breton05 Dec 2017 2:19 a.m. PST

In Alexander's reign, Russian infantry companies had ….
--- 6x Младшiй унтеръ-офицеръ / Mladshiy unter-ofitser / Corporal or Junior Sergeant (the first NCO rank)
--- 6x Ефрейторъ / Yefreytor / Lance Corporal or Vice Corporal (a billet or assignment for a Ranker, without any difference in uniform distinctions or pay)

Among the Corporals, there was ….
--- 1x Квартированный унтеръ-офицеръ / Kvartirovannyy unter-ofitser / Quartermaster Corporal or Quartering Corporal (a billet or assignment for a Corporal, without any difference in uniform distinctions or pay) – this NCO performed the duties of a French caporal-fourrier.

--- 1x Знаменный унтеръ-офицеръ / Znamennyy unter-ofitser / Color-Party Corporal or Flag Corporal (a billet or assignment for a Corporal, without any difference in uniform distinctions or pay) – this NCO was part of the battalion color party, chosen for good pacing and good fighting reputation

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Each company also had

--- 1x Фельдфебель / Fel'dfebel / Company Segeant Major or 1st Sergeant (a rank and a billet or position, with the highest pay of the NCO's) – typically a terminal career rank for a non-noble

--- 1x Каптенармусъ / Kaptenarmus / Gunnery Sergeant or Master-at-Arms (a rank and billet or position for a Sergeant, with higher pay than a Corporal) – responsible for weapons and ammunition

--- 4x Артельщикъ / Artel'shchik / Commissary or Canteen Manager (a billet or position for a Ranker, without direct pay or uniform distinctions) – a senior soldier chosen by the Rankers, had a small provisions cart, operated and managed a cartel of the Rankers and Corporals of a half-platoon, including insuring food distributions – as well as providing men for private contract labor and performing the rτle of a French cantinier, for the common benefit of the cartel

--- 1x Портупей-прапорщикъ / Portupey-praporshchik / Banner Sub-Ensign and 1x Подпрапорщикъ / Podpraporshchik / Sub-Ensign (officer candidate NCO's – pay the same as the Master-at-Arms), the former were always noble and the latter noble or non-noble but literate – the former allowed an officer's sword knot, no other unform distinctions – usually messed with the senior NCO's – 2 of the 4 Banner Sub-Ensigns actually carried the battalion's flags

Osage201705 Dec 2017 8:20 a.m. PST

Big thank you Oliver Schmidt and Le Breton for your replies !

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