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comdotski Inactive Member04 Dec 2017 8:34 p.m. PST

See my blog entry for scenario and video link to the 3rd re-fight of this battle from the 1809 campaign.

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nickinsomerset05 Dec 2017 5:57 a.m. PST

Great stuff,

Tally Ho!

wryeone Inactive Member23 Dec 2017 5:36 p.m. PST

Fantastic. I have to wonder…did any of your plays last long enough for the Detatched Austrians (RD) to arrive on the right? Their numbers don't seem big enough to swing a fight (so this isn't quite a holding action scenario) but without them it seems like an impossible task for Archduke John.

True Grit24 Dec 2017 3:30 a.m. PST

Cracking, love the vid and some beautifully painted figures. What is the main differences between the NB first edition and the fourth edition ?

wryeone Inactive Member26 Dec 2017 11:35 p.m. PST

Fundamentally, the changes in 2nd and 3rd were minor, and I suspect 4th follows that pattern – it's been much more about keeping the rules in print and shifting publishers than major rewrites.

In other words, I strongly suspect you can play a 4th edition scenario with 1st ed rules and vice versa with little or no problem.

True Grit27 Dec 2017 4:49 a.m. PST

Good, thanks for that wryeone

Markconz05 Jan 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

Lovely way of doing a battlereport, thanks!

comdotski Inactive Member15 Jan 2018 3:43 a.m. PST

@wryone

The RD Austrians are in the end just a concern for the French if Sahuc (LC) chooses to advance on the Austrian right. In our earlier plays RD has entered with a lucky (low) entry roll. But in that case, not enough to swing the result – especially in that case the battle was decided in the Austrian left and in the centre.

Agree its not a holding scenario – there is plenty of time for the French, and tough for the Austrian's to 'delay'. Further plays and some tweaking of the scenario required to make it more balanced we think.

Thanks for looking and the support.

HappyHussar21 Feb 2018 4:30 p.m. PST

Nice video – could do without the music and instead have audio narration instead. :)

John Edmundson06 Mar 2018 4:29 p.m. PST

I've seen a few write-ups of Raab refights; it's obviously popular – interesting and manageable. I wonder though, without tweaking the scenario too much for 'balance', has anyone ever had a result other than a French victory? With Johann outnumbered and much of his infantry being raw Landwehr and much of his cavalry being Insurrectio, I find it hard to imagine that he has much of a chance.

On a slightly different note, maligned as he has been as one of the worst commanders of the wars, I find myself with some sympathy for the poor ADJ. Strategically, I think he showed poor judgement, with a real penchant for weakening his own position through endless detachments of troops. But he defeated Eugene in an evenly matched battle at Sacile ( I know that Eugene helped him considerably in this . . .) and in the triple encounter at Caldiero, and after that he was always outnumbered and on the back foot, but really, would anyone else have won at Raab?

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