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Korvessa03 Dec 2017 10:04 a.m. PST

I have a vague recollection of an incident – probably during Republic – where a unit was punished by not being able to wear their military belt.

Anybody know more about this?

GurKhan03 Dec 2017 10:16 a.m. PST

"Sulla ordered a cohort and its centurions, though whose defences the enemy had broken, to stand continuously at headquarters, wearing helmets and without belts (galeatos et discinctos)."
Frontinus, Stratgems IV.1.27

Korvessa03 Dec 2017 10:21 a.m. PST

That is it.
Thank you

kodiakblair03 Dec 2017 10:43 a.m. PST

Something rings a bell about Roman males wearing a belt with a tunic but females didn't so the lads had the added insult of dressing like women.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2017 11:11 a.m. PST

The belt also took some of the weight of the chainmail armor off the shoulders and placed it on the hips.
Now, all the weight would be on the shoulders, as well as the weight of the helmet.
It's a physical punishment.

bsrlee03 Dec 2017 5:41 p.m. PST

Wearing a belt was a symbol of a mature male citizen in all the Latin societies that we know of. So they were being made to parade as less than men or citizens.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP04 Dec 2017 7:41 a.m. PST

Given some of the teens I work with, today it would be seen as having "street cred." :-/

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