"Stonehaven Halfling Mini's" Topic

I was cruising around the net looking for some interesting halflings and came across Stonehaven:
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All very nice until I saw their prices. $12 USD+ per figure for a Halfling. Which is sad because while I like what I've seen of the fig's, they have chosen to price themselves out of any consideration of a purchase.

Out of curiosity I checked TMP for any history of their mention… Mainly kickstarter announcements by Tango.

Anyone have any opinion on their mini's or participated in the kickstarters?

Yes, I am well aware of Westfalia and TAG's lines of halflings. This is not about looking for halflings, this is about Stonehaven's halflings and looking for feedback from customers who have them.

I was in the their halfling KS they were selling for less than $3 USD each then plus some bits and bobs.

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They are nice little minis that remind me of the Hobbit cartoon.

Thanks, LostPict.

Kinda weird. The Kickstarter goal was $5,000. USD and they got 16x that amount.

Wonder if they thought the perceived demand could justify the $12 USD per fig price after the Kickstarter? Dicey choice to make, because quite a few who had the "demand" probably already got them satisfied through the Kickstarter.

$12.00 USD per mini? Nice detail in the halflings, but dang they're useless for wargaming beyond buying a single character maybe.

They need to lower their prices or they're going to go out of business. Prices just aren't feasible.

Yeah, I think their webstore prices are beyond the pale.

Mardaddy, I have some of his dwarves I got from a FM table she HMGS con. Wh8ch is great because I both agree the links are nice and the prices keep me from getting more. Shame.

Grimm

Good grief, at the bottom of the dwarf page…20 minis. ON SALE for $179.99 USD??? Regularly $249.99 USD!!! For TWENTY metal 28mm dwarves? All due respect, but these people need to come back to reality!

I can get 100+ GW plastics dwarves of equal detail for about $150.00 USD!

how are they size wise?

They indicate that they are selling through Amazon, Walmart, etc. In order to do this you have to discount your list price by 70% to these type of retailers. So it appears they are trying to make their profit from direct consumer sales.

Unless you really have your production and distribution costs under control this is a very dicey situation. I wish them luck and hope it works out for them.

Dave
WargamingMiniatures.com

Ah… now that make a bit more sense then.

That's the reason we stopped selling our retail products through WalMart / Home Depot / Lowes.

They undercut on the wholesale but still sell at that retail price point to make money hand-over-fist over anyone else.

So again (my opinion) not a very good business decision.

I mean with companies like CP Models, Midlam Minis., Fenryll, just to name a few – who on earth is going to pay $12.34 USD for a single 28mm mini? As I said, maybe for a single character but for making a unit of any size it's a useless range price-wise.

This range would have to have detail on a level with Rackham/Cadwallon to justify $12.00 USD per mini. These aren't even close.

These guys probably made their production goals with the KS, made much more additional stock with the profit, signed an agreement sell through Amazon/Walmart from their shelf loads, and are just not casting any more -- they probably frontloaded with the 16x the goal of the KS and can afford to sell a character at a time from stock.

The miniatures biz is probably a hobby to them, they saw an opportunity, made good money and went back to the bread & butter day jobs, any mini's they sell at $12 USD+ is just pure profit, because production was frontloaded. It's all storage and distribution now.

(trying to figure this out logically, because they WOULD be out of business in short order if this was their day job. But even if THIS is true, they are still taxed on their overhead on hand stock every year, so again… is this a wise business decision?)

Okay, so, those are great fun and have a real flair. The prices, while high are comparable to many war game heroes and they are in pewter. If I ever get to casting and selling my 54mm stuff it'll wind up costing more though I'm a less talented sculptor.

I do suspect the figures are quite large. Though that's getting to be the norm these days.

Hey folks,

Just to give some inside info about the scale of these.

I actually bought their brewmaster miniature off Ebay from someone who sold it discounted second-hand without the base in new condition. Didn't realize at the time what Kickstarter or site it had come from, I just needed a good dwarf mini. to represent Joseph Bugman for Warhammer.

Trust me, these aren't "large scale" 28mm. They're ordinary 28mm scale. They are equivalent to GW's 28mm dwarf character models. Which again makes the retail price rather ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, good detail, good casts. But not extraordinary and not super-sized in the least.

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I have a gnome from this company & am pretty happy with how it painted up. Nice details without being overburdened or too "busy." I don't recall paying large amounts of money for it though…

Damon.