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Rubbsalot17 Nov 2017 3:19 a.m. PST

1807 battle of Bergfried Napoleonic AAR with animation. i am reposting this as the title was mangled the first time by the TMP internet gods. Apologies if you have seen this already.

Hello everyone, I would love it if you could check out my latest AAR on a little-played battle in 1807.

Please follow this link to my blog.


I did a little animation to help with the report.

I hope you enjoy, has anyone played this one?

Brownand17 Nov 2017 3:51 a.m. PST

the animation is great as are the pictures.
Great show, thanks

davbenbak17 Nov 2017 6:11 a.m. PST

Great AAR. While BP is not my favorite set of rules, I do like how the fumbles add to the narrative. I'll have to look this battle up. A random roll for crashing through the ice would add some drama.

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 6:13 a.m. PST

Looks like a cool scenario, and well done on the animation, too!

Rubbsalot17 Nov 2017 3:01 p.m. PST

Thank you all, very much.

davbenbak, I agree BP are not the best rules i've ever played but they are perfect for a gentlemanly Saturday afternoon over a few glasses of wine with a friend who games the period not the rules.

Ive recently returned to napoleonics after a gap of ten to twelve years (previously played Empire for two decades or so- no patience or room for that now), currently thinking of trying the "Over the Hills" rules but in two minds.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Rubbsalot17 Nov 2017 3:03 p.m. PST

oh and davbenbak, you shopld be able to download my collated notes on the battle from the blog post, collated from a couple of sources. if that doesnt work please let me know. its a little-known battle, Petre being the best commonly available source (to me at least).

davbenbak18 Nov 2017 8:58 a.m. PST

Thanks, followed the link. This is a great example of a divisional size battle. I don't have many Russians but could just as easily substitute any other French adversary.

adymac265020 Nov 2017 10:32 a.m. PST

ace that

adymac265020 Nov 2017 10:45 a.m. PST

Over the Hills are a great ruleset too, lots of internet praise

Rubbsalot21 Nov 2017 2:27 p.m. PST

Thank you adymac, i think I'll get Over the Hills at a local show this weekend, I had heard that the first publication could benefit from a refresh and have been holding out for news of a 2nd version but don't know if that was just fan banter.

HappyHussar21 Jan 2018 7:50 a.m. PST

Nice AAR! Nice to see people playing these more obscure battles/actions of 1807.

Note: The river was frozen BUT it was piled with at least 3 feet of snow making it impassable. Bergfried was a bridge crossing action and there was no envelopment by flanking forces that crossed the river. This is why Soult was unable to exploit his success. The outcome was historical enough ..

The Russian reserves showed up late in the action only to help contain the French success. Next time you play this try restricting the crossing to just the bridge, only have the four battalions (one in the village) and batteries and have the reserve show up as a reinforcement. Definitely will play more historical just not as much for the Russian commander to push around ….

Sources: Kevin Zucker – "1807 – Stalemate in the Snow" and James Arnold "Crisis in the Snow."

I am knee deep in research and development for a computer simulation game of this campaign – thus my "at the fingertips" info on this action which I had finished up later in December 2017 – definitely not enough books on this campaign – looking forward to the eventual publication of Michael Hopper's books on the 1807 Campaign in Poland for more information on the more obscure battles and actions of the campaign.

Rubbsalot22 Jan 2018 9:56 a.m. PST

Thanks very much for the added detail! I really appreciate the feedback.

Ive just added a new bat rep for a game set a few months earlier if you are interested please take a look.


Rubbsalot04 Aug 2019 2:37 a.m. PST

Over the Hills are a great ruleset too, lots of internet praise

thanks adymac, we tried them and love them, have a few AAR using them now on the blog, thanks




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