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Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

Continued from this post: TMP link

As promised, here are some pictures of the French Cuirassier and his horse:

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From here: link

While I have some molds, I do not have the rights to produce. I post here to show that the horses did exist. Examples for these were furnished by my fellow CMH Gamer, Greg Skelly as his original production castings were in better shape than my master castings for this guy.

Rider I believe is 30FC and the horse is definately 30H5. Hope this helps add to the discussion.

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Tom
Ex-GFI

Marc at work16 Nov 2017 11:59 p.m. PST

Interesting. Very obviously Minifigs. Where do the rights reside now then?

Esquire Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 4:45 a.m. PST

Dye4minis -- I have 3 bns of the French line, organized for 1809, a regiment of the cuirassiers (36) and the French legere casting converted and painted as Middle Guard. There was a single Austrian musketeer in helmet with command and I have 48 of those -- not the best of that series but OK. Back in 1980's I gamed with a group devoted to 30mm and I felt that the 25mm Minifigs did not blend well, although some used them. Most were Suren, Tradition and Scruby. You might get some interest if you think you can produce for sale but I have a vague and incomplete knowledge of the history of the molds and understand that it might be a mess.

jefritrout Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 8:00 a.m. PST

The rights and master molds reside with Fusilier miniatures.

Fusilier was owned by Wally Simon, Fred Haub and Bob Wiltrout. There was also SHW Casting that owned the casting machine.

I do have regular contact with them. Well – I do not have any contact with Wally obviously, but the other 2 I saw on Saturday.

Esquire Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 9:40 a.m. PST

jefritrout -- I could not remember Wally's name -- it now comes back to me. But I had no knowledge where masters resided. My memory is that some group of you would get together on occasion and cast and that you would produce for others. If that is still the case, let me know. A group in Indiana remains relatively loyal to Napoleonic, moving from CLS to General de Brigade but stay with 28mm and 30mm and still use what -- unfortunately -- often includes antique figures. Just so many figures now in hand -- but we are always adding figures. I have often been asked about the French line casting. It is nice.

jefritrout Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 11:04 a.m. PST

Just to correct the record, Fred Haub was not involved in Fusilier Miniatures, it was Mark Wellington and Bob Wiltrout. I know that Bob was casting figures for his own use last night.

Personal logo Dye4minis Supporting Member of TMP17 Nov 2017 5:49 p.m. PST

I don't have a clue as to who has the rights in the USA for those 30's. (It's been 8 years). I have "Some" of the master molds, but missing a lot so it is really possible those folks have the missing ones. Would be nice to see SOMEONE legally bring them back!

When we had the Minifigs franchise, Mr. Higgs had given us the rights to do any of the ranges we wanted. (Back in 1998.) Was not aware of anyone else having rights till after I was in Germany, and then only by word of mouth. Dave at Caliver Books is now the new owner so I'd suggest he would know for sure.

I'd be happy to sell the molds to the rightful owner of the IP for the USA and help as much as i could to see the range(s) get back into the marketplace for those who want more.

(Don't think I did a bad job on the molds looking closer at the figs I posted pics of. …as he breaks his arm patting his back, says he…) 8>)

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Tom Dye

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