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Cold Warrior11 Nov 2017 9:28 p.m. PST

This has been steadily increasing over the years (manufacturers of military equipment suing companies for using likenesses without permission). I know it has hit plastic model manufacturers, just wonder when we will begin hearing about larger miniature companies (such as GHQ) getting hit.


Annoys me to no end, as any vehicle or weapon can potentially be targeted going back generations. IMHO if a weapons system has been purchased with our tax dollars, it's likeness should be "public domain" when it comes to recreating it's likeness in models and video games. If we have to start "licensing history", well it will likely shut down smaller manufacturers quickly who cannot afford the margins. As our hobby is primarily made up of smaller manufacturers the effect could be devastating.

Vigilant12 Nov 2017 4:41 a.m. PST

This was discussed in a scale model magazine some years ago. Part of the problem is down to ambulance chasing lawyers suing the manufacturer of the real thing if little Johnny hurts himself with the model. Part is how the vehicle is portrayed i.e. if it gets associated with terrorist or criminal activities. Part of it is if it gives the impression that the original manufacturer endorses the views of the game/TV/film being portrayed. Intellectual property is just that, just because you bought a Ford doesn't give you the right to sell a model of it as your own. We shall just have to wait and see what happens.

Jeigheff Inactive Member12 Nov 2017 6:42 a.m. PST

I agree, Cold Warrior. Our US tax dollars paid for all this stuff.

Personal logo Wyatt the Odd Supporting Member of TMP Fezian12 Nov 2017 7:49 a.m. PST

In the US, it is considered "open". None of the makers of the Sherman tank can claim IP, not can Lockheed go after modelmakers for images of the F-16.

In Europe, it's a bit different.


Dynaman878912 Nov 2017 12:24 p.m. PST

Weapon system manufacturers having been trying this for at least a decade now. Eventually they will succeed. If through no other method then altering the deal with the US for new weapon systems – so that the manufacturer owns licensing rights in some manner outside of US government use.

I work in the software field, the standard contract for the US government to buy software at least WAS that the source belonged to the US government if they paid to have it written but that has not been done for decades now. Either the standard has changed or every major software company gets the deal written with a stipulation that they onw the code. Something similar could happen with hardware.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2017 8:37 p.m. PST

Wyatt is right. The image or likeness of a military vehicle, aircraft or whatever is open source. Because they are government property. Any image or likeness that is used by the military that is not classified is open source.

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