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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 3:01 p.m. PST

Nice!
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Amicalement
Armand

Marc at work09 Nov 2017 11:35 p.m. PST

I like. Much needed

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP10 Nov 2017 1:37 a.m. PST

What you would expect from 1/72. Well proportioned and superbly animated.

I'll bet Blucher wished he had a few like these at Waterloo.

Despite the company name, many of their superb releases are of an earlier era

C M DODSON10 Nov 2017 3:48 a.m. PST

The History in 1/72 site points out that these otherwise splendid fellows are probably in the wrong gear and gives some suggestions.

historyin172.blogspot.co.uk

Nevertheless excellent sculpting from Massimo as always.

Best wishes,

Chris

dwight shrute10 Nov 2017 4:31 a.m. PST

but remember these are metals not plastics , regardless I am still buying them !!!

4th Cuirassier10 Nov 2017 6:21 a.m. PST

It would be a shame to do Prussian cuirassiers in Litewkas as these are incredibly boring.

Unless they wore white Litewkas?

wrgmr110 Nov 2017 8:09 a.m. PST

They are indeed very nice!

Marc at work10 Nov 2017 9:45 a.m. PST

I'm with 4th. Full dress all the way please for me

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 Nov 2017 9:52 a.m. PST

Happy you like them boys!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

seneffe10 Nov 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

We shouldn't worry too much about the History in 1/72 website view- it is the traditional view which is partially correct- but only partially.

Actually, during the time that the Prussian Cuirassier Regiments were part of the Army of Bohemia and were thus brigaded with all of the Austrian and Russian Cuirassiers in the army reserve- the three Monarchs agreed that on days when battle was planned or expected- that the Prussian regiments should wear their white kollets to create a consistent appearance for this combined body of elite troops.

So while the Prussian Cuirassiers wore litewkas most of the time on campaign, they did wear- at least for a period including Leipzig- their white finery on the big day, which is what we wargamers generally want to depict.

The source for this is a c19th Prussian regimental history. I do not have it to hand having only seen it in a google books version. If anyone wants the exact reference I will track it down, but I give scout's honour at this point that it is correct.

Oliver Schmidt10 Nov 2017 3:20 p.m. PST

The source for this is a c19th Prussian regimental history. I do not have it to hand having only seen it in a google books version. If anyone wants the exact reference I will track it down
Yes, please ! Would be most interesting !

4th Cuirassier10 Nov 2017 3:45 p.m. PST

They're a huge improvement over the Hinchliffe 25mm cuirassiers I used to have. One leg was normal and the other was withered as though the poor chap had had polio.

von Winterfeldt10 Nov 2017 11:23 p.m. PST

I agree with Seneffe, see Monteton : Geschichte des 6. Kürassier Regiments page 193

Oliver Schmidt11 Nov 2017 1:59 a.m. PST

Thanks, Monteton states that the Brandenbugisches Kürassier-Regiment was wearing the white coats from the begining of June 1813, the litewkas being fixed to the portmanteau. Surely this did apply also to the other Prussian cuirassier regiments.

However, there is no statement that this was the result of an agreement by the three Monarchs ?

14Bore11 Nov 2017 6:34 a.m. PST

I have 3 of my cuirassiers in Litewkas, but would be a shame not to have my Guard du Corp in anything but Killers.
Love those figures, if starting over would get 1/72s

Tomsurbiton11 Nov 2017 9:32 a.m. PST

Why do we always get metals in the plastics section?

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2017 9:44 a.m. PST

Because everyone thinks of 1/72 as being plastic, which outside Germany tends to be the case of, course.

Imagine how good these will look painted up. Of course, once covered in paint, no one will believe they are anything but plastic.

Tomsurbiton11 Nov 2017 9:53 a.m. PST

Thanks, Deadhead; as much as I always enjoy reading your posts, I should still have preferred seeing these beautiful figures under a more appropriate heading.

seneffe11 Nov 2017 11:58 a.m. PST

Thanks v Winterfeldt- super quick authoritative reference!

For those who want to check the white kollets point in the original-

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2nd paragraph of pg 193 as Von W says.

Oliver- I still can't find the specific reference to the Prussian Cuirassiers wearing white kollets from mid 1813 being a decree from the three monarchs. I'm sure that I've read it- unless it's a very serious case of false memory syndrome. It is consistent with some other symbolic gestures of unity between the monarchs and their armies at this particular period.

I wonder if it is in v Plotho's history of the 1813-14 campaign? Years ago, I went through that at length. Given my low quality German language skills (I do try though), I don't think that I am equal to reading through it again to search for the reference.

But, I guess the main point is that we do now know that there is a definite reference (whoever may have ordered it and why) that the Prussian Cuirassiers DID wear their white kollets during the second part of the 1813 campaign. I think that we should all contact our favourite Napoleonic figure manufacturers immediately to request that they produce these historically accurate figures!

von Winterfeldt11 Nov 2017 12:50 p.m. PST

I agree again, l also remember to have it read somewhere also in a history of the 1813 campaign, but where?
White tunics are certainly a historical correct option for Prussian cuirassiers in the liberation wars.

4th Cuirassier11 Nov 2017 3:12 p.m. PST

White tunics also provide a bit of much-needed pairing variety. There's a lot of dark blue and grey otherwise.

wrgmr112 Nov 2017 4:20 p.m. PST

I would love Peter at Calpe to sculpt Prussian Cuirassiers, in white tunics.

Marc at work13 Nov 2017 6:07 a.m. PST

Of more concern is how they are to be sold – I don't want to buy an officer, standard and musician every time I get three troopers. Will be interested to see how he markets these

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