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seneffe06 Nov 2017 2:59 p.m. PST

Disclaimer- I have nothing commercial to do with Skytrex. However, I have bought quite a lot of stuff from them in the last year or so, and can testify that they are very nice folks who will go out of their way to be helpful and to answer queries very quickly- so I thought I would review their range- which I think is a really effective alternative to both micro armour and 15mm.

After a break of 30 years, it felt like time to have another try at cold war period gaming- but what figures and vehicles to use? There is brilliant stuff from many manufactures at all scales now, so hats off to everyone for the toys they produce. But for me- 15mm/20mm is too big, 12/10mm a bit too big, micro-armour too small, pico armour way too small. Totally my personal view but I don't like the ‘tank shoot out across a factory car park' look of some larger scale games, and my middle aged eyes just aren't up to distinguishing a 1/300 (still less 1/600) T64 from a T72 on the games table. So like a wargaming Goldilocks- I was looking for something ‘just right'. Second disclaimer- I don't look like Goldilocks- or break into bears' houses.

I found that Skytrex- one of the big names in UK wargaming from the 1970s to 2000s- is now back in business, and have re-released their 1/200 ‘Action 200' range- both modern and WWII.

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The website for Action 200 is a bit basic and doesn't sell itself that well, but I've added some of my own photos which hopefully shows them to advantage.

1/200 is very roughly 8mm scale- part-way between micro-armour and 15mm, and in my view combine some of the best attributes of both. 50% larger in each dimension than micro-armour, they are about three and a half times the overall volume of the latter- making them significantly larger. Compared to 15mm however they are much smaller- with an overall volume of only one eighth of the larger scale. I think 1/200 vehicles are more distinctive and recognisable on the table than micro or pico armour, but sit more realistically in the ‘landscape' than 15mm vehicles do, whilst still using them en masse.

The Skytrex ranges are very comprehensive for Sovs, US and British cold war, with a good range of Arab-Israeli, Gulf War and Vietnam specials. The West German range has the basics, and there are some new models in the pipeline to address gaps. Dutch, Belgians, Poles, and other smaller nations would all be difficult to do right now. Most of the basic helis and aircraft are also there- Hinds, Cobras, Lynxes, A10s, Harriers etc. Vehicle detail goes from pretty good to excellent- some of the West German stuff is especially good.
As an aside, the WWII range is HUGE and also worth checking out.

The infantry is currently sold in packs of about 10 by the weapon they are using. Detail is quite basic and pose variation is not as great as we now expect, but the figures are anatomically more correct than many newer figures, and mixing in figures from different codes onto an element base gives quite acceptable variation. They paint up well and look nice based as squad elements on the table. Soviet Airborne in berets and BAOR in heavily cammo'd helmets are new additions which may not yet be on the website but they do exist.

All in all- I think that they are well worth a look if you want something between micro armour and 15mm.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Nov 2017 7:32 a.m. PST

Who makes 1/200 terrain? Is 1/200 a railroad scale?

In 6mm, 10mm, or 15mm terrain makers provide everything from telephone poles to strip malls. Where does one source this for 1/200?

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2017 12:04 p.m. PST

1/220th is railroad Z scale.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa07 Nov 2017 1:38 p.m. PST

Way back in the mists of time I had some of the Vietnam range. The vehicles were nice enough, and satisfyingly chunky compared to 1:300/1:285, but the infantry weren't terribly inspiring! Not good when the Viet Cong are almost exclusively infantry. Especially compared to the 10mm offerings around and even some 6mm stuff. Its probably a good 'scale' on the table, but what killed it for me was cost relative to smaller and indeed larger scales (that and its not terribly common). Personally I've gone 1:144 for WW2 and 15mm for sci-fi, though a small collection of GZG and Brigade 6mm stuff has sneaked in relatively recently.

I also remember at one point that a company in Hong Kong, who you could order starter sets off, was casting up at least some of the Action 200 range in a zinc alloy.

…And ssshh, no one tell GW that 8mm figures are an existing wargaming scale because apparently that's the new scale for re-release of Adeptus Titanicus/Epic!

Mind you if GW's 8mm offering does take flight it might awaken some interest in the scale – and skytrex might want to consider selling separate hulls and turrets for certain WII and WI designs if you get my drift…

Lee Metford07 Nov 2017 11:25 p.m. PST

Personally I like Skytrex 200 vehicles along with GHQ modern 1/285th infantry. They appear to be more in scale with them than GHQ's own range of vehicles etc. and their 6mm counterparts.

SpeedCrazedMoron08 Nov 2017 5:01 a.m. PST

Grrr. Nothing gets my goat more than websites trying to sell you stuff… with no photos of the stuff. Looking at you, Heroics and Ros.

Mind, there appear to be more photos of the 1/200th modern Russian kit on the Skytrex site than I remember from before so maybe things are improving.

Or my memory is defintely on the futz. I think I know where my money is on that one.

I definitely thin I'd like to take a look at this scale. Although the snaps of the 100mm AT gun are, er, a bit flaccid and off-putting. Lol.

Senefe, where are the photos 'you've added' that you referenced, there?

seneffe08 Nov 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

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seneffe08 Nov 2017 1:05 p.m. PST

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Had a problem with my photo linking the other day (many thanks for your help Editor in Chief Bill) so the OP lacked eye candy, but here are some photos of the models unpainted and in action on the table which I hope show them well.

Speedcrazed- for clarity I am nothing to do with Skytrex other than a satisfied customer. I wish they would advertise the range a bit better because it is a hidden gem in my opinion- really the best of both worlds size-wise.

Extra Crispy- terrain for 1/200 is no problem at all. As indicated above- it fits with all the Z Scale model rail items- the marked tarmac roads on the table are all Noch Z Scale tape for example- and there are many other items available, including buildings and street furniture. But for our buildings we actually generally use the excellent Timecast range. These are a generous 6mm scale which look very good with the 1/200 figures and don't crowd out the terrain.

RudyNelson08 Nov 2017 2:13 p.m. PST

The 10mm scale is very flexible. We used it for Battletech back in 1985 before minis were available for vehicles and grunts.
For an integrated, infantry and tanks, 10mm is a great scale. Better than 6mm.

seneffe08 Nov 2017 5:12 p.m. PST

Hopefully these links work ok. You shouldn't need a one drive account to view them, but they can take a second or two to open.

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and on the table against Z scale and Timecast 6mm terrain pieces:

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Lee Metford09 Nov 2017 1:51 a.m. PST

Hey seneffe, thanks for the photos! Great looking table layout and excellent models. I was interested in the photo of the Hind photo as I've been thinking of buying some Skytrex helos

Ta v much

EvilBen Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 7:25 a.m. PST

I have a bunch of WWII and late 1980s stuff, and most of the vehicles are great. I also like the GHQ infantry with them, especially since I use the infantry based and the vehicles without bases. I haven't had them on the table for a while: maybe I should get them out! (The exception is my KV1s, which have appeared in Epic Armageddon games.)

seneffe09 Nov 2017 1:48 p.m. PST

Thanks Lee- much appreciated.

The Skytrex helis are all nice. They do come complete with clear plastic rotor blade circles which are fine but I tend replace them with the great laser etched ones from Hurlbat/Lazerline, which are available in 1/200 and many other scales-

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The rules we use have a role for wreck markers- mostly vehicles but occasionally aircraft too. With tears in my eyes I took a hacksaw to a Hind kit to produce a couple of burning crash-lands- here's one-

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EvilBen- go for it- we haven't looked back.

EvilBen Supporting Member of TMP10 Nov 2017 7:31 a.m. PST

Ha! Sold. Thanks very much for those pics: the one with the A-10s in particular is beautiful. If they were to start doing modern French kit I'd really be in trouble…

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