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Kokolores Inactive Member27 Oct 2017 8:20 a.m. PST

Here ist an excellent review written by Bill Gray of Bruce Weigle's new "1871 Fast Play Grand Tactical rules for the Franco-Prussian War":


Royal Marine27 Oct 2017 9:21 a.m. PST


Prince Alberts Revenge27 Oct 2017 12:09 p.m. PST

Plan to pick up a copy at Fall In, thanks for the review.

Yellow Admiral27 Oct 2017 12:13 p.m. PST

Bruce Weigle is retiring? Who said he could do that? He's not done!

- Ix

Royal Marine27 Oct 2017 3:01 p.m. PST

No one retires in this game …

Woollygooseuk28 Oct 2017 5:57 a.m. PST

Has anyone played these and Chris Pringle's Bloody Big Battles? How do they compare?

Kokolores Inactive Member28 Oct 2017 7:24 a.m. PST

I have played games using both rulesets and enjoyed them all.
The main difference is that 1871 uses simultaneous movement, fire and melee while BBB uses an IGO-UGO system based on the "Fire and Fury" ruleset.

In 1871 1 inch equals 100m while the scale in BBB variees from battle to battle, the main purpose being that the battlefield fits on a 6x4 ft table.

In 1871 one turn equals 30 minutes, sometimes 1 hour, depending on the scenario. In BBB there is usually one hour turns.

In 1871 one stand represents either a Company, a half batallion or a batallion, depending on the size of the battle. In BBB several stands, usually about 4-6, represent a Brigade or Division, again depending on the size of the battle.

I think both rule sets are very good and well supported with plenty scenarios. Preference Comes down to personal taste imo.

Drusilla1998 Inactive Member05 Nov 2017 4:50 a.m. PST

My one concern is Bruce's continued use of simultaneous movement. That's an OLD gaming tool, which does not have to be used any longer, but that's just me.


Drusilla1998 Inactive Member05 Nov 2017 4:53 a.m. PST

Also, in the older version, Prussian artillery was really not much better then the French artillery. However, the Chassepot fire was so devastating, that any Prussian advance was stopped, but the Prussian didn't seem able to silence the French, so we ended up having crushing French victories.

I'm hoping some of these issues were addressed in the latest version.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2017 7:23 a.m. PST

In our club we use "They Died For Glory" a simple and elegant system. We took a look at "1870" and said "check please". I have "1871" and it maybe simpler than "1870" but it is still a lot to learn. TDFG gives you the option of using simultaneous movement but you don't have to use it and we don't. Marvelous set of rules.

Kokolores Inactive Member16 May 2018 5:37 a.m. PST

By now I have played several games using 1871 and I can say the rules work great. I have played the battles of Villepion and Poupry from the "1871" book as well as the battle of Loigny from the "1870" book. There is also a retrofit that makes the new fast play rules usable for the scenarios of Bruce Weigle's "1859" and "1866" rule books. I have played the battles of Nachod and Schweinschädel from the "1866" book and it worked very well.
The battles could all be played in an evening by two players.

I can highly recommend "1871"

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