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Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 8:17 a.m. PST

YouTube link

A pretty good overview giving you an idea of the nuts and bolts of the game. Nothing about the campaign system though.

I'm looking forward to it.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 9:02 a.m. PST

Thank you! I've been scouring the webz for information on N2.0 since it was first announced in August.

Ld / Cl / Int / WP

!?!!?!

See, now they're just jerking me around! Next, they'll be teasing Porta-Racks, conversion fields, and suspensors…

I really hope they tweaked the irritating ammo roll rules. And the "extra ammo" perk, which, as a needless downside, was prone to "blow up" sporadically. Like, you know, happened all the time in the post-black powder era.

The H Man26 Oct 2017 4:44 p.m. PST

Don't you mean suspenders? My Escher need them.

The H Man26 Oct 2017 7:06 p.m. PST

Watching the video her accent seems to drop on priority.

Also she did not say which kang she was with.

Is this an updated ad, it looks similar to an older one.

I notice special dice. An attempt against piracy. But a tad annoying. I know the original had a couple. Just seems nicer to have normal dice, not so trixy and if lost easier to replace. I wonder if they will sell separately. If piracy is seen as an issue, probably not.

The H Man26 Oct 2017 7:39 p.m. PST

Hogging things here..sorry.

Reading a review of what may come. Suggests that there may be different rules for 2d and 3d terrain. May be just the way the reviewer worded it. As if he would know yet anyway.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 7:40 p.m. PST

I notice special dice.

I would have really liked to see d10's for some granularity. For once. You got the RT mental stats, how about some classic polyhedral love, too?

I wonder if they will sell separately.

I wouldn't worry about that. Worry that they'll be made of rare and costly plastiks from the distant orient.

The H Man26 Oct 2017 9:09 p.m. PST

Yes. Where they have to track through unforgiving jungle to find the ancient temple and slay the dragon to rescue the princess who's father holds the map to the factory where they are made.

A blank die and a sharpie. Armchair adventuring. On a budget. (Only for replacement dice, of course).

alpha3six26 Oct 2017 9:23 p.m. PST

A blank die and a sharpie

Yeah a special d6 is just another d6 in the end.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 9:39 p.m. PST

Cheap, home-made imitations!? The crushing guilt of your shameless frugality is sure to drive you mad in a Poe-like fashion!

So, pre-order is the 11th. The dedicated site is live:

https://necromunda.com

So, anyone got an MSRP on this puppy yet?

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2017 1:19 a.m. PST

Thanks for posting that. I hadn't seen the actual site yet.

The original was $75 USD when I got it, I think. I would imagine this will be $125 USD or $150 USD but I haven't seen anything official yet.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP27 Oct 2017 5:40 a.m. PST

You're welcome. I have been checking in for updates almost daily.

Was it $75 USD? I forget, even though I ran across my original pre-order flier the other day. It came with an order I'd placed to GW- a pink photocopied sheet with a Delaque ganger on it. I was Johnny-on-the-spot for that one!

This one does have less whistles & bells than 1.0, what with the Gang War expansion being needed to make it more like "real" Necromunda. And there's a WHOLE lot less plastic here than SW:A. I'm thinking $100 USD, $125 USD, tops.

Much of the fluff I'm seeing is pretty heavily copied from the original (not that I'm complaining). And at least for me, It's good to see the "House specialties" are being fleshed out. Other than Goliath and Van Saar, most were pretty sketchy the first time around. I don't recall any mention being given to what Cawdors do for a living, I don't think zealotry pays the bills for everybody.

I am also really excited that they might flesh out the the lesser Houses. I would love to see a box of "generic" gangers, with all sorts of optional bits to give your gang their own theme.

And if they bring back the brats, I will be beside myself. No, the stupid Spyrers don't count. That was a disappointing bait and switch.

Looks like this is my birthday present. grin

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Oct 2017 12:20 p.m. PST

I thought the spyrers were cool but didn't get any at the time. I had other things to buy and not much money. If they bring them back I'm in for a gang of them.

I think what we would probably most likely do with this is have three people play where two play at a time and the person out can be an umpire and play the winner until one gang pulls way ahead. Then have them take on a spyrer gang or the other two gangs at the same time or maybe both.

The H Man28 Oct 2017 9:57 a.m. PST

In pics world GW has gotten more affordable over the years.

Yes. The Spyrers are an interesting gang. Being so few.

I do wander if they will even be re done, if so in what form. A plastic sprue for 4 figures, maybe 8 with 2 variants sprue. unless they create new ones) seems not profitable for GW. They would have to put the price up as you would only need 1 sprue. I guess they could just put fewer figs on a sprue or put more sprues in a box. So you either pay less for figs you won't use or more for figs you will. A conundrum.

There is fine cast…

We will be paying more one way or the other.

GypsyComet28 Oct 2017 10:45 a.m. PST

"In pics world GW has gotten more affordable over the years."

GW hyperflation aside, some of us have jobs now.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP28 Oct 2017 2:23 p.m. PST

I didn't mind the spyrers, but the notion of a bunch of rich fops coming downhive to go all Clockwork Orange on the populous (and then possibly running home the instant things stop being "fun") was a lot more intriguing than someone playing Iron Man vigilante. Made a lot more sense, too.

The H Man28 Oct 2017 5:10 p.m. PST

I am sure there are people who had jobs back then who are feeling the GW pinch (technical term) today, job and all.

I would like to see them do spyrers more like super heros. You pick a basic type. Then max them out with endless choices exotic weapons and equipment. They could also pick from bio upgrades and psychic powers, depending on type. Then each would be a total individual.

This way they cold full the sprue with upgrades and make it seem worth while having more so you can double up on some up grades. Like if the sprue had 1 claw or 1 wrist webbing blast and you want one for each hand.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Oct 2017 2:11 p.m. PST

Looks like it will be $125. USD

https://i.imgur.com/nktLCLb.png

So your high estimate and my low estimate. I guess that would make it a pretty reasonable price. 20 models, plus the tiles and scenery pieces and rules. I'm certainly in. It works out well as the 17-20 is the first weekend I'm off for the next few.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Oct 2017 2:15 p.m. PST

The instruction manual:

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Deadles30 Oct 2017 2:22 p.m. PST

Lack of 3D scenery has put me off the boxset. It'd be best just to buy new gang upon release and use the living rulebook.

The H Man31 Oct 2017 5:02 a.m. PST

Would this edition not super seed the living rulebook? I wouldn't think that they would try selling this with free rules around, considering you only need to buy ten figures.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2017 12:58 p.m. PST

I see it hits Black Friday, just like Blood Bowl last year.

Hm. $125 USD is still steep for what I'm seeing. Especially since Gang War is a most certainly a necessary add on. Otherwise, it's like buying a shiny new car with no tires. So, I'm looking at 8th Ed. money again, one way or another.

Oh, well. I've been bitching about it for twenty years, I guess I gotta pony up.

Deadles31 Oct 2017 1:03 p.m. PST

No such thing as superseded rules. You can play the rules you want (assuming you have fellow players who are also glad to play that ruleset). I still play Advanced Dungeons and Dragons (2nd edition) and the last game of 40K I played was 2nd edition in about 2010!

Locally people still play last edition of Warhammer Fantasy and not Age of Sigmar.

As for Necromunda, most of my club will go for living rulebook cause it is free.

The H Man31 Oct 2017 1:07 p.m. PST

Looked up gang war.

I had heard the 2d and 3d play had separate rules. I did not realize how separate!

An expansion on day 1? Cheeky gits!

The box game must be boring as heck if all the good rules are in the other book!

I can see the appeal of the living rule book, or just using the original books most fans have.

I wonder if it's not ban attempt to stop people breaking up boxes on ebay and selling the rules separate.

I was thinking of buying them this way to avoid the models and save the money. Now I would still have to buy another book, adding to both cost and bother.

The H Man31 Oct 2017 1:15 p.m. PST

Looked up gang war.

I had heard the 2d and 3d play had separate rules. I did not realize how separate!

An expansion on day 1? Cheeky gits!

The box game must be boring as heck if all the good rules are in the other book!

SeattleGamer12 Nov 2017 11:47 a.m. PST

Their approach to this game actually makes sense to me.

Having the base game feature ground tiles, and a bunch of bulkheads and other scatter terrain (cover and objectives) might pull in some people who play "board" games. Having tunnels to navigate and no terrain to really prep may appeal to them.

Others will want to recapture Necromunda of old, with 3D terrain and a campaign system. An expansion book that covers that makes sense.

The H Man12 Nov 2017 1:28 p.m. PST

True. That also follows my theory that they made it more of a board game to compete with mantics star saga. That had a kick starter a year ago, so they had time to pre pair. Though the jury is still out on this one.

SeattleGamer12 Nov 2017 2:51 p.m. PST

I don't think this had much (if anything) to do with Star Saga. Manic had a successful fantasy dungeon crawler (Dungeon Saga) and expansions did well. They decided to branch out ino their sci-fi setting with a similar crawl-type game, hence Star Saga.

Necromunda was always a multi-player gang versus gang skirmish game. So if you want to draw a comparison, you could say that while Necromunda has slept these past many years, Mantic came out with their Dead Zone. Features two rival teams, fighting it out skirmish style on a smaller board (not the usual 6' x 4'). Was successful enough, they ventured again into that same realm, with Deadzone 2.

But I really don't think GW worries or cares about what Mantic do. They have their own product lines, and get to them when they do. If anything, I would say Mantic noticed that gamers were longing for a Necromunda-linke skirmish game, and with Necromunda defunct for so many years, Mantic decided to get seriously into the plastic terrain business, and fashioned their Dead Zone game around that.

The H Man12 Nov 2017 3:04 p.m. PST

If GW does not care what their competition does then they are truly fools.

They certainly did not give away base rules until manic and others were well into doing it (remember white dwarf is a product they sell). So pop goes your theory there.

I can't believe star saga was known about for a year in detail and GW did not notice.

Mantic has taken some of their customers and GW does want them back. And their money too.

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