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Clays Russians25 Oct 2017 10:46 a.m. PST

Has anyone? Anyone at all reached a point when you want to sell it all away, haul it ALL to the con flee market, gift it out? All of it? And just want to grab the old set of rules you liked from the bottom of the extra rules box, and start it all over in the period you remembered you loved the most? I'm retired, just turned 58, and BANG! 🤔 I have funds and patience to "do that one thing" and to the devil with the rest. Even to the point of buying the best $$$ figures/castings and paying to have them painted. In the long run, this would have been cheaper anyway. Frustrated……..dreadfully so. Can't seem to get anyone locally interested in anything longer than 11 days before they decide to switch to something else. Sooooo-----

Dash it all to that devil Mr Scratch! I want to dig out my copy of Shako first edition, and make 6 huge orders from AB Minis USA and send the little "excitable sprats" to Sri Lanka. (I wonder if there is a limit to how many little Barton bastards you can order). By thunder, I'm about do it, can't rely n anyone else to support anything. So I'm going ROUGE!

MajorB25 Oct 2017 10:53 a.m. PST

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Historique25 Oct 2017 10:58 a.m. PST

Clay, go for it! Maybe ask your local group that has pretty much dispersed from miniature gaming to see if there is any interest. I know that there will be at least one that joins you in the effort.

Clays Russians25 Oct 2017 11:04 a.m. PST

You found me at a bad hour my friend but I've been thinking on this for weeks actually. May good fortune fall your way soon and I'm serious, the stuff has got to go. Need anything cheap?

Personal logo Endless Grubs Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 11:12 a.m. PST

Actually, I have begun doing just that. I can feel a trip to Janesville, Wisconsin in the future for a lot of it instead of dealing with fee-bay and what not for the rest of my life. Same problem--painting and basing for no one but me it seems these last 25 years. Good luck--you'll feel better I think.

Parzival25 Oct 2017 11:24 a.m. PST

Well, if you're gonna go "rouge," make certain it's hypo-allergenic!
evil grin

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 11:30 a.m. PST

Ah – no!

I do, to be clear, paint and give away a lot of figs

Plus I got kids and grandkids who are gamers

14Bore25 Oct 2017 11:31 a.m. PST

I am close to finishing the Russian 1st Western Army of Borodino nothing can stop me now.

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 11:41 a.m. PST

I retired 10 years ago and have painted more in that 10 years than at any other time. OK I did run a painting service but, only counting stuff for me, I've done tons of painting.

Some of them have yet to see a battlefield but I LIKE painting and planning armies and choosing rules and all the other bits that come before playing with them. I need the odd battle to stir my blood but I kept painting some bits when I was doing well to get 2 games a year.

I play with a load of other old farts who have tons of figures in almost every period – I need not paint another figure and we'd still have enough to play a game a day without repeating ourselves. We all still paint regularly, it is a major part of the hobby as we do it.

We have probably played a dozen different rulesets this year at one guy's place alone. We are generalists not specialists.

Clays Russians25 Oct 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

I'm not so much a specialists as such. I play bolt action because it's fun. I also play saga. Also fun. The red army I will keep, the Vikings, Saxo-Danes, and Norman's stay. And then there's the block games, commands and colors Ancients and Napoleonics I collected, I love those. There are family questions to take into consideration as far as what is really important and what isn't. (What gives you joy, and what doesn't). This was not meant to imply a bad vibe to anyone. Just perhaps a midlife crisis and the fact that losing both parents at this age exemplifies the idea, indeed- we may just may- have too much crap. Now I'm going thru my fathers effects, and my mothers affairs are getting in order as we speak. So. Yeah, I'm really going to follow thru with this because, well, there are a lot of other collectors out there with other periods I can play, I don't have the need or inclination to follow every whim anymore, I can't afford the time. I have 8 grandchildren, sorry, not trying to preach, Jesus I sound like a rambling lunatic. Be well all.
Can Eureka/AB do rather large orders, anyone know?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 12:07 p.m. PST

I know the feeling. I wouldn't start from scratch, but it's going to take me a year or more to get rid of the obvious "surplus to requirements" and maybe half or more of what's left ought to go as well.

But what I really need is to learn to play solo and enjoy it.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 12:16 p.m. PST

I'm slowly getting rid of "surplus" stuff.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian25 Oct 2017 12:26 p.m. PST

I have been tempted to have a "passing through? Stop by and see if there is anything you like" sorta garage sale. I'd sell a lot of stuff if someone made an offer and I did not have to pack and mail it.

McKinstry Fezian25 Oct 2017 12:54 p.m. PST

I long ago gave up on getting others to participate in my favorite stuff. I do both sides in as much volume as needed and then whether at a Con or FLGS, I put on what I want supplying everything and I've never failed to get in games.

If you paint it all, they will come.

But it can get very frustrating waiting.

Timmo uk25 Oct 2017 1:09 p.m. PST

Yes at times. I've got a few skirmish projects about 1/3 done and two big battle projects with about 300 done and I can't muster the interest to work on any of them.

So instead I'm currently back on a project I started 37 years ago and I'm really enjoying the painting.

I think I could strip back to three projects however, I'm not intending to do so incase I regret the sale.

mckrok25 Oct 2017 2:39 p.m. PST

Nope. Things will eventually come around. This evening I'll continue working on an army I started about 40 years ago, 25/28mm Republican Romans. I went decades without ever using it, but have used it about a dozen times over the last two years. It just took the right opportunity.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 3:19 p.m. PST

"Can't seem to get anyone locally interested in anything longer than 11 days before they decide to switch to something else."

Yes, this is a big problem with a group I'm in and with many other groups I've seen over the last few years. We used to do a ton of club projects, which is where we got our large collections for several rules sets. Trying to do a club project now, however, is really tough with so many distractions in the form of rules, figures, boxed games, etc.

Henry Martini25 Oct 2017 5:30 p.m. PST

It's merely a reflection of a wider societal ADD.

Fortunately I've recently found a club with members who are keen to play any rule set, no matter how old and/or unshiny.

Great War Ace Inactive Member25 Oct 2017 6:30 p.m. PST

My advice is don't get rid of your stuff, unless you don't like it anymore for whatever reason. If you still like it put it away and wait. You can always use it if you still have it.

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 7:11 p.m. PST

+1 Great War Ace.
and get a small force together for Sharp Practice play some games the 11 dayers keep bringing it back. build up a smallish force for Shako. keep hyping the big game that you're going to play they'll come around and you'll get that big game in.

Good luck.

basileus66 Inactive Member25 Oct 2017 9:02 p.m. PST

I have been there, although without the 'retired' part. In the end, I have focused my interests in a few periods, using rulesets that allow me to collect small armies (Saga, Sharp Practice). I intent to sell the rest, but so far I have not found the drive to do it (too much work!) although some day I will.

attilathepun47 Inactive Member25 Oct 2017 10:01 p.m. PST

Being a rather stubborn sort, I have always pretty well resisted letting anyone drag me into buying and painting anything that did not really interest me. But I do have some stuff that represents ill-considered gifts which I will probably never use.

I will echo what others have said about buying and painting everything needed to provide both sides for a balanced scenario in a period you like with rules you like. Then, if someone is bugging you to do something different, you can say to them that you will play their game, provided that they furnish everything necessary, AND that they agree in return to play the game you want to play. If they can't agree to that, then they probably aren't worth paying any attention to.

As to all the accumulated stuff for periods or rules you don't really care about, I would say by all means get rid of it in the most profitable way, or with the least effort, whichever appeals to you more.

altfritz26 Oct 2017 3:25 a.m. PST

First time I've seen it called the "Flee market", but appropriate in this case, I guess. :-)

Clays Russians26 Oct 2017 7:58 a.m. PST

Flee market….. did I really say that?

Early morning writer Inactive Member26 Oct 2017 3:03 p.m. PST

Clays Russians, first, condolences on the loss of your parents. And that is almost certainly driving your mental gymnastics. You are in a state of the most profound grief most people ever experience. Thus I recommend you reflect carefully on your options and only make the final decision after you've had time to adjust. I could be in your shoes soon with an 87 year old mother with dementia and other health issues and an 89 year old father who is morbidly obese and has many other health issues and his 95 year old wife with heart problems (parents divorced nearly fifty years ago).

Another highly relevant consideration for those of us who've gone overboard in collecting figures and the associated paraphernalia is leaving a burden on our heirs, in my case my wife. She'd have no clue what to do with most of my hobby things and I have a large model railroad collection in addition to my massive miniatures agglomeration.

Now, on the point of chuck it all and return to the first gaming love? Yes, I've actually reflected on that rather seriously, in my case playing the Seven Years War using Mike Nemechek's Volley Fire rules. Instead of doing that, I've decided to focus on three of my 14 different figure collections in the following order of priority: American War of Independence, Old West/Plains Wars, and Slightly Cracked Colonials (which encompasses exploring Africa, a touch of Indian Mutiny, and a very large dose of Boxer Rebellion). My challenge is letting go of all the rest. Like others, I enjoy the collecting and the painting (when I have time for it which is far too rare but retirement is four years out, hopefully). The odd bit is I know I'd be more focused and get more done on the other side of a winnowing of the miniatures but crossing that bridge is a cast iron b*st*rd. I keep roaming around on the apron approach to the bridge but I've yet to step on the bridge proper and this is a few years into dwelling on it.

Maybe the hardest part for me is that my largest numbers of painted figures are not in my three priority periods. How the heck did that happen? Okay I wanted to collect the whole period, or as near as possible, to ensure they were all painted to the same standard with the same basing scheme. Still!

Good luck in whatever you decide. We need to be in control of our hobby choices not the hobby press or the hobby industry. For too many, that 'oh, new and shiny' phenomena drives too much of their decision making. Thankfully, I get to take full responsibility for all of my purchases. Just not sure if that is good or bad since I have enough to stock several hobby shops!

Nic Robson Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 6:48 p.m. PST

Dear Clay,
Just spotted this, we at AB can certainly do large orders. Just let us know what you are looking for. Just turned 56 and can sympathise with early middle age crises.

Jefthing Inactive Member31 Oct 2017 6:27 a.m. PST

Absolutely! Looking back over the years I wrote down all the games that were memorable: the vast majority were pre 1990 and many were solo efforts.
I have effectively given up gaming, not played since April, not been to a club since January and stopped painting about a month ago. Might be a good idea to stop looking at TMP too!

A bereavement always causes people to reflect; sadly doubly so in your situation. But it sounds like you have a good plan. Nowt wrong with Shako or AB, so stick to what makes you happy. If someone else joins in great, if not, their loss. Good luck!

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2017 11:22 a.m. PST

I am a few years from retirement. Several years ago I started thinking about the periods I still want to do and factored in the time I have left to do them. I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to paint much anymore. I am going to outsource the vast majority of my painting. I believe it is more cost effective and provides me the time to concentrate on other aspects I enjoy.

I cannot achieve my goal if I do all the painting myself. I can no longer paint to the high standard I am accustom to. I have instead chose to focus on figure selection, research and scenario design. I am very lucky to live in a town with a very active historical gaming community and have few problems getting players.

I have found that I most enjoy setting up a scenario and the figures, terrain, OB, scenario rules etc., then sit back and watch what I have created come to life. Don't get me wrong I like playing too. But being the puppet master gives me the most satisfaction. I strive to be as historically accurate as possible. I never will come close to it, but the joy is in the effort.

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