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Tango0123 Oct 2017 9:46 p.m. PST

"Foreign Isis fighters fleeing the group's fallen stronghold of Raqqa must be killed on the battlefield, according to a senior US adviser.

Brett McGurk, a top envoy for the American coalition fighting the terror group, said it was vital to kill foreign terrorists to stop them mounting attacks back home.

The comments come after the remaining Islamic State terrorists holed up in their de-facto capital fled after a final bloody standoff…."
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Seems they are all agree…

British IS fighters 'must be killed', minister says (BBC).

Killing ISIS Fighters From the West Is the 'Only Way' to Prevent Their Return (Newsweek).

‘Kill them all': Backlash against Tory who called for ISIS heads (RT).


VCarter Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2017 6:18 a.m. PST

For some it seems to be a case of "love your enemies". I just wish they wouldn't include "and hate yourself".

Choctaw24 Oct 2017 9:26 a.m. PST

This is one of the most despicable organizations since WWII. There is absolutely no reason to allow them to surrender. There is no benefit to mankind if these animals are allowed to live. Kill them all.

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member24 Oct 2017 9:37 a.m. PST

Rory stewart is the guy who produced the recent two-part BBC documentary on Lawrence of Arabia.

I seem to recall reading that the French (since the election of Macron) were actually operating this as government policy. Good for them.

Tango0124 Oct 2017 11:07 a.m. PST



Great War Ace Inactive Member24 Oct 2017 11:50 a.m. PST

There is no reason to be merciful, other than to hold the moral high ground. If you are not capable of that, because you are not in fact in actual possession of the moral high ground, then letting murderous, hate-filled enemies escape is simply being stupid.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member24 Oct 2017 12:59 p.m. PST

Put 'em to work rebuilding the cities they've caused to be destroyed. Hard labor seems a just punishment and doesn't waste bullets. Some might even be redeemable. We can't simply slaughter men seeking to surrender unless we want to be as barbarous as they have been. Some hard cases may want to fight till the end but others might give it up if they are allowed an out, and why lose good men fighting with desperate, defeated men with nothing left to lose?

Choctaw25 Oct 2017 12:46 p.m. PST

Piper909, these animals forfeited their lives when they murdered others in some of the most barbaric ways imaginable. Do you want these "redeemed" murderers living in your neighborhood? Do you want them to have easy access to your schools, churches, family and friends?

Lion in the Stars25 Oct 2017 4:47 p.m. PST

Putting the 'redeemed' fighters to work rebuilding the cities they destroyed would only see them lynched by mobs of their surviving victims.

goragrad25 Oct 2017 10:29 p.m. PST

I have to agree with piper909 – sorting them out and punishing them appropriately wouldn't be easy or likely entirely successful, but should be attempted.

There are probably some members who joined to fight Sadat and never committed atrocities, determining who those are will be the catch.

Lion in the Stars26 Oct 2017 7:42 a.m. PST

@Goragrad: You mean Assad? I'm pretty sure that most of the non-DAESH forces mostly avoided atrocities, since their fight was with the Syrian government and not the Syrian people.

DAESH, however, was fighting the Syrian people for the crime of not being Muslim enough.

Lost Wolf26 Oct 2017 9:35 p.m. PST


Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP27 Oct 2017 3:29 a.m. PST

Are we all quite satisfied to be judge, jury AND executioner?

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member27 Oct 2017 4:05 a.m. PST

I think there is no moral problem with killing as many of them as possible on the battlefield (and for as long as they remain a clear and present threat to us). However, we must shy away from "Wild West" justice, not just because it is as distasteful as IS itself, but because it removes potential sources of intelligence or under-cover operatives, and could turn more moderate Muslims (who are the overwhelming majority here in the UK) into extremists.

The kicker for the British taxpayer is having to spend money keeping these people under lock and key. Perhaps we could look at some sort of "manual labour" scheme to use them for rebuilding the countries they destroyed.

BenFromBrooklyn Inactive Member27 Oct 2017 12:45 p.m. PST

They are not "returning home".
They are advancing towards Europe.
There's nothing immoral about killing them.
IF they attempt to surrender, that's different.

Lion in the Stars27 Oct 2017 6:47 p.m. PST

Perhaps we could look at some sort of "manual labour" scheme to use them for rebuilding the countries they destroyed.

As I said, the problem with that is that the survivors of those destroyed countries will kill them. If the former-DAESH are lucky, it will be a quick death.

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