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| Le Breton | 17 Nov 2017 2:06 p.m. PST |
Murvihill, I looked through quite a few by GIllray and Cruicshank (the two most prolific and well-known cartoonists) using Google image search.
I found "Corsican Hero" (mockingly) and "Cosrsican Fox", but no "Orge". The earliest I found "Orge" in English was Thackeray in 1829 (see above). Brechtel wrote :
"…. the 'Corsican Ogre'? That old myth is the result of British and allied propaganda of the period." I shocked that he has not been able to supply some example of this – as he stated quite clearly it was British wartime propaganda. He must have this idea from someplace – as opposed to it being his own invention. Sadly, I cannot trace it to the British or the wars. The first I have found it was in French, in a rather silly work (for children or the partially literate?) written by a schill for the monarchy early in the second Resturation – almost 15 years before I could find anyone British using the phrase. So I am sure the Brechtel, when he has the time, will help us understand how it was an invention of British wartime propaganda as he so clearly asserted. |
| Brechtel198 | 17 Nov 2017 3:41 p.m. PST |
…as he stated quite clearly it was British wartime propaganda. No, what I said that the old myth was the result of British and allied propaganda. Once again you get it wrong…at least you're consistent. This is what I wrote: "Raising another old myth-that of the 'Corsican Ogre'?
That old myth is the result of British and allied propaganda of the period." So it is 'quite clear' that you are wrong. |
| Le Breton | 17 Nov 2017 4:50 p.m. PST |
OK …. I think you are declaring a important difference between the phrase being British and allied propaganda and its being the "result" of same. Then please tell us how it could be the "result" of same if no one ever used the phrase in English until 1829 ("as far as I can find" – you are welcome to provide earlier usages)? Bottom-line : the only "old myth" I am seeing is that the British came up with the epithet "Corsican Orge". Compare how often it is used now. But during the war, I can't find it – and certainly not coming from the British. |
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