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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2017 8:41 p.m. PST

The Plastic Soldier Company announced a new 15mm M60A3 kit


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Main page
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theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Oct 2017 4:56 a.m. PST

I don't know what that is, but it's NOT an M60A3…
1: No heater exhaust pipe
2: Track pads are wrong.
3: No thermal shroud on the gun barrel
4: Gunner vision block is not rounded in the back for TTS
5: Grenade dischargers are completely wrong.
6: No Xenon Mount on top of gun shroud.
7: No LRF in the range finder turret bubbles.
8: No Turret bubbles at all.
9: No wind sensor mount.
10: No phone box on back fender.
11: End of the barrel on the M85 is incorrect…

Okay I'll stop there…

Major Mike17 Oct 2017 5:56 a.m. PST

12. Missing fire extinguisher pulls on front slope
13. Lift rings on the gun mantel
14. Searchlight electrical connection on turret top
15. Aluminum road wheels!?! I wonder if they come with wear plates?

Legion 417 Oct 2017 6:05 a.m. PST

Other than all that … it's a nice model … LOL ! laugh

Dynaman878917 Oct 2017 8:47 a.m. PST

Looks enough like an M60A3 to me.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2017 9:24 a.m. PST

(smile)


Amicalement
Armand

seneffe18 Oct 2017 2:40 a.m. PST

Small point Murphy- I always thought the Xenon searchlights were removed from the A3s when they received the TTS- though I note your comment on the shape of the gunner's block being wrong for the TTS type.
Pres a model should have EITHER the Xenon light for the original A3 OR the correct vision block fitting for the A3TTS?

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Oct 2017 12:57 p.m. PST

Seneffe:

There were two versions of the A3 originally. The first still had the old RISE/PASSIVE IR, and the searchlight, (that was the lesser amount and were quickly replaced), although the mounts were left in place.
As a result the Gunners periscope block had square edges.

With the TTS, the back of the block was rounded.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Oct 2017 12:58 p.m. PST

Major Mike:

btw..you have BII layout on Saturday….hooah!

Grimmnar Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2017 7:58 p.m. PST

Wish someone would make a plastic A2.

Grimm

Lee49420 Oct 2017 2:05 p.m. PST

When you're wargaming and looking at a 15mm tank from 3 or 4 feet away does it really matter? I can't see that stuff anyway. If you want every single detail then why not go with a larger scale model kit? For wargaming I think they're fine. Cheers!

JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2017 2:33 p.m. PST

Grimnar, Not plastic but exceptionally nice resin from here
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JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2017 2:37 p.m. PST

@Lee494
For the price you pay for this stuff, the manufacturer might as well get it right. Otherwise you might as well put any other tank model down, and call it an M60. No problem eh? After all it's a 'tank'.

Tgunner Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2017 2:47 p.m. PST

I don't know what that is, but it's NOT an M60A3…
Okay I'll stop there…

Uh-oh, here come the Dino tankers and they´re scale counting!!

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Lee49420 Oct 2017 3:51 p.m. PST

Well I guess if you consider the fire extinguisher pulls on the front slope absolutely critical to telling an M60 from other tanks you're right. Cheers!

langobard Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2017 6:21 p.m. PST

On the one hand it looks fine to me, as I've never seen an M60 close up.

On the other hand, they should have realized that there are going to be a heck of a lot of people who worked with these on a daily basis, and that are going to want to buy, not just something that "looks ok" on the other side of the table, but that would give them the connection with their own past / experience while they are putting it together and painting it.

So, it does seem that this time at least PSC have set themselves up for a bit of avoidable criticism.

JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2017 7:13 a.m. PST

@Lee494
I was thinking more of Murphy's post than Major Mike's, but why not get the basics right?
+1 langobard.

olddat Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2017 8:37 p.m. PST

Let's run this down…
1: No heater exhaust pipe ..Check..
2: Track pads are wrong. ..Check..
3: No thermal shroud on the gun barrel ..Check..
4: Gunner vision block is not rounded in the back for TTS ..Check
5: Grenade dischargers are completely wrong. .You're one of the few that use the correct term.
6: No Xenon Mount on top of gun shroud. .There were three of them.
7: No LRF in the range finder turret bubbles. .Check.
8: No Turret bubbles at all. .Check.
9: No wind sensor mount. .Check.
10: No phone box on back fender. .Check.
11: End of the barrel on the M85 is incorrect .Check.
12. Missing fire extinguisher pulls on front slope .There is one there but it is small!
13. Lift rings on the gun mantel .And where are the ones on the rear of the hull?
14. Searchlight electrical connection on turret top .Check.
15. Aluminum road wheels!?! I wonder if they come with wear plates? .Check.
Now here's mine..
16. Sprocket doesn't go through the end connectors.
17. Grenade ammo boxes are flush with the turret.
18. No bracing in the bustle rack.
19. Infantry rails way to big.

Charles M.
And I wear the dino tanker badge with pride!!

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Oct 2017 6:44 a.m. PST

^^ What he said ^^

Murphy
(Dino Tanker)

Lion in the Stars23 Oct 2017 6:23 p.m. PST

@OldDAT: I'd be inclined to give the infantry rails being too big a pass, assuming that we're talking about those huge tubes around the sides of the turret.

Because they look like they're a separate piece, and at 1/100 scale you'd about have to use fishing line to get the thickness correct. Which would be far too fragile to game with.

UshCha Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2017 2:34 a.m. PST

I agree that getting stuff oversize due to process limitations is unavidable. getting the smoke dischargers (UK term) in the wrong pattern is a bit hard to swallow. Also the basket at the back of the turret has too many rails based on the pictures I have looked up on the net.

GGouveia24 Oct 2017 7:05 a.m. PST

For a gamer looks fine, the rails may be big due to being a large plastic piece and they did not want Great War Bayonets part 2.

fingolfen25 Oct 2017 12:33 p.m. PST

Where can I get one of those Dino Tanker T-shirts???? :D

Legion 425 Oct 2017 1:24 p.m. PST

I can't see the T-shirt pic !?!?!? huh?

olddat Supporting Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 6:09 a.m. PST

The t-shirts are from spreadshirts.

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