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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2017 8:21 p.m. PST

… With Returning ISIS Fighters?

"Albert Berisha is both a paradox and a dilemma.

His lilac shirt, soft features and neatly trimmed beard could belong to any office worker in the world.

He certainly doesn't look like someone who swapped his life in Europe to go fight in Syria alongside ISIS militants he openly describes as murderous psychopaths…"
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PMC31717 Oct 2017 1:47 a.m. PST

Exile to a nice island somewhere with no airport and a monthly packet ship to bring post and supplies?

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2017 5:58 a.m. PST

Same as Patrick, but skip the island.

DrSkull Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2017 7:07 a.m. PST

Isn't this sort of question why we have bodies of written law? Whatever the law says, do.

Great War Ace Inactive Member17 Oct 2017 7:55 a.m. PST

Calling someone that you fought alongside of a murderous psychopath does not excuse you from prosecution. Opinions don't matter. Actions matter.

goragrad17 Oct 2017 3:20 p.m. PST

The article paints a favorable picture of Berisha and his organization. If he did as it states, he has a point. The problem is verifying that.

I have to agree completely with the final sentence – the best, first restraint of radical Islamists is moderate Muslims.

Of course it was amusing to see s government in Kosovo (are they actually fully recognized as being independent yet?) taking a hardline here given the history of those who helped create it…

Gaz004518 Oct 2017 4:46 a.m. PST

Hand them over to the people they terrorised for trial and punishment…..

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member18 Oct 2017 7:18 p.m. PST

What Gaz0045 sez, with a caveat that rather than the wholesale lynchings probably to be meted out, the less-murderous offenders be set to work making repairs to the damage done to these regions by their wars. Like a very tough CCA program of building and roadwork and debris cleanup and such. Hard but not cruel labor. Some of them may learn a lesson from this, or a better skill than arms. Locking 'em up just creates another drag on society.

Begemot Inactive Member18 Oct 2017 7:59 p.m. PST

"What [piper909] sez, with a caveat that rather than the wholesale lynchings probably to be meted out, the less-murderous offenders be set to work making repairs to the damage done to these regions by their wars."

Good idea. Let's apply this to the Bush II and Obama administrations, for the sake of justice. There is much these people have to answer for in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria (and any other places I've failed to mention). Death for those who organized and ordered these crimes and hard labor for those who carried who carried the orders out.

Oh my! One can't do that. Berisha and his gang are criminals. And Bush and Obama are…what are they?

Augustine tells the story of a pirate captured by Alexander the Great. The Emperor angrily demanded of him, "How dare you molest the seas?" To which the pirate replied, "How dare you molest the whole world? Because I do it with a small boat, I am called a pirate and a thief. You, with a great navy, molest the world and are called an emperor."

Lion in the Stars19 Oct 2017 1:48 a.m. PST

@Begemot: well, there is the minor detail of DAESH volunteers being War Criminals by the definitions of the Geneva Conventions, while the BushII and Obama administrations (and US Army) are not.

Simply by wearing uniforms, and not hiding among civilians.

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member19 Oct 2017 4:30 a.m. PST

And making efforts to limit/avoid civilian casualties.

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